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Will the dentists remain open during this third lockdown?

33 replies

Swags12 · 04/01/2021 21:52

Hi everyone hope everyone is staying safe and doing well. I wanted to ask if dentists would still remain open as my cousin who I live with has an appointment on the 8th and 16th January to have his braces put on and not sure if it still will be open. I tried looking online but I have been getting mix answers and not sure.
Can you let me know about this please.

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Seriouslymole · 04/01/2021 21:53

No idea but hope so as DS has waited 6 weeks for an “emergency” appointment which is tomorrow morning. Sorry, that doesn’t help you but just wanted to register my interest.

AKissAndASmile · 04/01/2021 21:53

I'd imagine they would.

The advice is work from home unless your job means you can't.🤷🏼‍♀️

wlaiabdh · 04/01/2021 21:54

The guidance on Gov.uk says they can stay open, but i guess it will depend on what individual dentists decide

BusMum79 · 04/01/2021 21:55

Yes. I believe so. It’s in the guidelines that they will this time. A great relief to many, I’m sure... personally I’m banging my head against the wall as DH is a dentist, so will be working flat out this time while I homeschool 2 DSs and look after our 18mo DD.

AKissAndASmile · 04/01/2021 21:55

I've just checked the .gov website and dental services are indeed staying open

BusMum79 · 04/01/2021 21:55

Could be that some services will change / be scaled down - so worth phoning practice to check.

C0NNIE · 04/01/2021 22:50

Yes, healthcare will be staying open.

Whyisitsodifficult · 04/01/2021 22:53

I’ve had my kids routine appointment cancelled for the second time today! It’ll be over 1 year since they’ve had their teeth looked at, surely prevention is better than cure. If I was private would they keep cancelling? 🙁

ineedaholidaynow · 04/01/2021 22:55

Our dentist hadn't started routine appointments since lockdown 1.Tthey were meant to start again this month but not holding my breath

Blondesnotbombs · 04/01/2021 23:01

Private dentists will be open as normal.

Nhs are told to stay closed.

Official guidance says dental appointments are essential

yawnsvillex · 04/01/2021 23:02

@Whyisitsodifficult

I’ve had my kids routine appointment cancelled for the second time today! It’ll be over 1 year since they’ve had their teeth looked at, surely prevention is better than cure. If I was private would they keep cancelling? 🙁

Yes I agree ... prevention is the whole point of the dentist. Private wouldn't cancel.

And to think we clapped for these people!

Dancingalong · 04/01/2021 23:03

I have an appointment at 8am tomorrow! I’m going to go and see what happens. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Swags12 · 05/01/2021 00:37

Thank you to all who posted. I think the dentist practice is most likely to stay open in our area.

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Whyisitsodifficult · 05/01/2021 09:39

@BusMum79

Yes. I believe so. It’s in the guidelines that they will this time. A great relief to many, I’m sure... personally I’m banging my head against the wall as DH is a dentist, so will be working flat out this time while I homeschool 2 DSs and look after our 18mo DD.
Is your husband a NHS dentist? Could you ask him why they keep cancelling routine appointments and can I do anything about it?
BathroomWork · 05/01/2021 09:56

They're allowed to, and now that PPE is in place for them, I think they will continue?

BusMum79 · 05/01/2021 10:15

@Whyisitsodifficult He does NHS & Private mixed - as many of them do. He has been back at work since first allowed to in June. I think it’s v much up to individual practices but there’s obviously a huge backlog. He was only able to see emergencies at first and now more routine appts are starting to come through the doors I guess. Loads of dentists (including DH) caught Covid right at the start before Lockdown 1, as they were seeing patients without the proper PPE. Once they recovered and the services reset it’s a case of playing catch-up as with all services. Really tricky as it’s frustrating all round! This is the first time there’s been any specific mention in the guidelines - normally there’s loads of faffing as they wait to be told what they’re allowed to do! Hope you get your teeth seen to soon!

MyVisionsComeFromScent · 05/01/2021 10:21

my orthodontist texted this morning to say they were staying open, so my braces are coming off on the 25th as planned Grin< me with lovely teeth. Private patient though, if that makes a difference

Chel098 · 05/01/2021 10:29

I still have seen a dentist! My dentist is still dealing with the backlog from before.

JorisBonson · 05/01/2021 10:33

Yep. I just had a call confirming my check up next week.

icelollycraving · 05/01/2021 10:40

Literally just had an email from mine to say they are open and offering full service except hygienist.

TodgerStrunk · 05/01/2021 10:40

I've been called by the orthodontist this morning to see if i want to bring DC's appointment forward because I won't be on the school run - they are charging for PPE though.

And - for the first time in months the normal dentist has picked up the phone and we have been able to make an appointment for a check up, given we missed ours last April. The DC were seen in August and we were told we could make an appointment for me and DH in September, then it was October, then they stopped answering the phone, then they sent a "NHS patients will be removed from our list" reminder in December and we spent about a week phoning but it rang out. But today there was a regular miracle Grin

herecomesthsun · 05/01/2021 11:05

to think we clapped for this people

lol lol

all that trouble and expense you went to, in front of the neighbours

I sympathise with wanting a service though, and the family I know with a dentist in it were desperate for him to get back to work when dental surgeries were shut in the first lockdown.

TheAnswerIsCake · 05/01/2021 11:24

@Whyisitsodifficult “ Is your husband a NHS dentist? Could you ask him why they keep cancelling routine appointments and can I do anything about it?”

The simplest answer to this is because NHS Dentistry has been chronically underfunded and run in to the ground for years. Even pre-Covid there were far too few NHS dentists to meet the needs of the population. Since Covid, NHS dentists have been asked to prioritise urgent/emergency treatments. This means in order to receive funding (be paid!) we MUST see all patients contacting us with urgent dental issues. Remember how I said dentistry was underfunded? There’s a lot of in-met need out there. Many dental practices have been swamped with calls from people who have no long term relationship with that practice, but whom we are obliged to treat (there is, after all, no such thing as registration with a dentist any longer - not since 2006). Add to this that many people who usually seek private care are aware that NHS dentist must treat their emergencies, many of them would rather pay us the Band 1 charge to do so than pay a private practice a much higher fee (and possibly a PPE charge on top).

So yes, a lot of predominantly NHS practices in England are genuinely struggling to catch up and to continue to see patients with whom they have previously had a long standing relationship if those patients have no issues with their teeth at the current time. In many way, this is as it should be - like all health care there are times priorities have to be made.

What can you do about it? Well first of all take as much responsibility as possible for your own oral health. Someone up thread mentioned “prevention is better than cure”. True, in this case. But actually a dental check up is not preventative in itself. Having a check up won’t stop dental problems occurring. Following the oral health advice given to you will - and that advice is freely available online. Brush twice a day for 2 minutes with fluoride toothpaste. Clean at least once a day between the teeth. These things reduce the risk of gum disease (and fluoride reduces decay risk). Reduce the overall amount of sugar in your diet, and most crucially the frequency of sugar intakes. Only consume sugar containing food and drinks a maximum of 3 times a day (mealtimes). This reduces the risk of decay.

Secondly - lobby your MP about the appalling lack of support for NHS dental services in England. Not addressed specifically to you, but many people are so quick to blame dentists themselves for all that is wrong with the system when most of us are working really hard in a ridiculous system and (contrary to popular belief) not being paid loads of many for it (most NHS dentists have not a pay rise in over 10 years - we must try to cram in ever more work just to make earnings keep pace with inflation. The uplift given doesn’t keep pace with the rising cost of materials, utilities etc. Is that the way to a quality system and good care? Dental practices are private businesses with NHS contracts, so no special status when it comes to trying to remain afloat.)

tinselearedcow · 05/01/2021 11:36

Good post TheAnswerIsCake (although the answer probably isn't cake if we want to look after our teeth!).