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Shielders/ECV not getting the vaccine

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SunKeepsShining · 04/01/2021 16:43

Disclaimer- I’m feeling momentarily grumpy and sorry for myself.
We have shielded totally since March, to the extent DH has shielded with me. He has changed to WFH and if he couldn’t he was going to quit to do so. My doctors have told me not to do anything even see them. We have not been to shops/cafes etc.

We saw everyone go on holiday and out to eat in the summer, we couldn’t even risk going to a self catered place. We were seeing people outside at a distance but that was stopped. But feeling unreasonably jealous others still get to see people and other humans at the shops/work/even seeing another human at school pick up and drop off. But we’re not legally allowed to say hello to someone outside. So we hung on for Christmas, but we were clearly no fun as we could only see people outside. No one wanted to meet up with us, immediate family chose to see their friends inside over us. I don’t think that relationship will be repairable after being told that. But I can understand why you would want to see friends inside who your kids can play with. Friends liked coming to us outside before when rules allowed as we had patio heaters/comphy chairs and provided hot drinks in disposable cups. Seeing everyone meet their friends in the park still and we can’t sucks. But of course other friends wouldn’t want to see us when other friends where inside friends who you could get drunk with all day.

Anyway. Despite shielding we are only in group 4 for vaccines. I absolutely believe NHS staff should go first and then care home staff. But I don’t understand why I have to wait until the over 70’s have had theirs? They said us shielding people weren’t being admitted in great numbers. No fucking shit. All the groups that I am on no one has stopped shielding all year, to the extent of pulling their kids from school to homeschool to protect adults at home. Even now shielding is reinstated but Doris who is 75 can still go to the supermarket library and church but I can’t. Doris also spent all summer going round to her neighbours for tea and biscuits and company. If Doris was more at risk than me she would be told to shield again, but she isn’t. June it’s predicting I get my vaccine and Feb 2022 for DH.

Like I said, just feeling sorry for myself, everyone wants the vaccine and I absolutely think NHS first and care homes second, but surely then then most vulnerable not just age. But like I said, I just need a good cry and not to feel jealous of everyone who’s been on holiday this year and our for a meal or to a shop or even the fucking post office. I can’t even get my meal boxes from mindful chef any more as you can’t wipe the fuckers down. I was just angry at the last tier which allowed people to meet in a pub but not in my safely distanced garden, when going in a pub would possibly kill me. I know it’s because most people can’t be trusted and would walk through a house or use a toilet. End rant. Don’t even know what I’m asking. But I’ve gone from being an active member of society to now someone who if it came to it wouldn’t get an ITU bed in current climate where I usually do.

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SunKeepsShining · 04/01/2021 19:28

@SaskiaRembrandt the vaccine doesn’t stop you being infected or reduce transmission. All it does is kick start your immune system into fighting it as soon as you get covid so you hopefully get a mild illness for one day etc. Shielding people and some in particular are being asked to keep shielding even when vaccinated because of a specific set of complications that would need treatment at the moment.
Hugs to everyone going through shit.

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SunKeepsShining · 04/01/2021 19:31

@CatVsChristmasTree I absolutely promise I haven’t been phoning anyone up to ask when I’m getting it etc as know that would add to the workload and would get me know further and just seems bizarre that people are doing that. I did send chocolates to my practice and chemist though for Christmas. Hope it wasn’t viewed as bribery 😂
Genuinely grateful for how hard everyone in healthcare is working and so angry at those posting empty nighttime hospital corridor videos. They just don’t understand and I don’t understand why.

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NotAnotherUserNumber · 04/01/2021 19:39

I sympathise with your frustration. My mother (who is over 75) has said she wished I could have the vaccine first as she is healthy and unlikely to be at much risk, whereas I am CEV and like you have been shielding all year.

Personally, I am ok with waiting a little longer. I have immunodeficiency, so the vaccine might not work for me and I think I am likely to still need to shield after I have been vaccinated as it is just too much risk.

I had covid in March and was bloody ill for about 3 months, so I know what it is like and won’t be doing anything to risk getting it again.

MrsPernicious · 04/01/2021 19:55

The misuse of terminology annoys me.
Shielding - you have been told to shield
Self isolating - you have the virus or have been exposed and may have the virus

I work with people who are CEV and have mental health issues - quite a niche group. They have found it hard, I have had very little time off, worked Christmas day etc

Totally would up by people who say 'I'm shielding, here I am having a picnic at local beauty spot' ... 'I'm isolating, but I still have to go to work'
NO, you are normal and following the rules

Most shielders seem to be in group 4, quite a few of these have normal even quite important jobs. It is frustrating.

Vaccines do not work 100%, one of my DC had whooping cough, nowhere near as bad as some of my childhood friends. But, there was a dodgy batch and about half a dozen kids at school got it. Identical twins, sharing a bedroom, one OK the other sick for 3 months.

Floralnomad · 04/01/2021 20:02

Sorry if I’ve missed it @SunKeepsShining but why is it illegal for you to go out ?

gooseygooseywanderingfree · 04/01/2021 20:15

@SunKeepsShining it your situation is really shit. A very good friend of mine lives alone and has been shielding since March. She's had enough. But she's stuck Sad
But it sounds like even after you've had the vaccine things wouldn't really change for you? What needs to happen for you to be able to go out again?

gooseygooseywanderingfree · 04/01/2021 20:17

Literally just now, Hugh Pymm on the BBC said they are expecting all key groups, including the ECV, to have been vaccinated by mid-Feb @SunKeepsShining

SaskiaRembrandt · 04/01/2021 20:19

[quote SunKeepsShining]@SaskiaRembrandt the vaccine doesn’t stop you being infected or reduce transmission. All it does is kick start your immune system into fighting it as soon as you get covid so you hopefully get a mild illness for one day etc. Shielding people and some in particular are being asked to keep shielding even when vaccinated because of a specific set of complications that would need treatment at the moment.
Hugs to everyone going through shit.[/quote]
I see, I didn't realise you were being asked to shield post-vaccination. That sucks. It must be so difficult and demoralising to not know when this will end for you.

Lumene · 04/01/2021 20:23

The aim is you will all have had the vaccine by the end of February, and no one at all is going to be going anywhere much before then.

So not sure if it makes that much difference, really.

Ridcully82 · 04/01/2021 21:22

@Lumene

The aim is you will all have had the vaccine by the end of February, and no one at all is going to be going anywhere much before then.

So not sure if it makes that much difference, really.

With second doses down by about middle of may,but the first one should give alot of protection. I'd nit heard if anyone being told they'd need to shield afterwards
BensonStabler · 04/01/2021 21:27

OP is your husband your carer?

Unpaid carers, including all adult carers and young carers aged 16 to 18, are in priority group 6 for vaccination.

That puts them in whith others in group 6. The clinically vulnerable.
All individuals between 16 and 64 with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality.

Group 6 on omni calculator shows predicted between 25/06/2021 and 27/09/2021. So may be sooner than you realise for him.

SunKeepsShining · 05/01/2021 00:02

Thank you @BensonStabler he is, but I’ll double check with the GP if he is registered as my carer, I think he was sent some information once but can’t remember if it was this GP or the last.

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