It's not going to get better for a long time, is it?

[MagicSummer]

After such uplifting news about the Oxford vaccine last week and the proposed 2 Million per week vaccinations, I was feeling a bit optimistic last week. I am in Group 5 so according to the calculator can expect to get the jab in late February. However, today's news is so bad, I feel extremely despondent today. I feel there is absolutely no way we will be back to a more 'normal' life this side of late summer. It makes you want to cry!

I meant to ask @TheSunIsStillShining are you quite financially secure yourself? As the idea to spend one’s day decluttering and watching theatre shows indicates you yourself are not at immediate risk of losing your job/income/home?

Can you then not even understand that other people are crumbling with anxiety , even though they are not quite out in the snow begging (or how did you phrase it?)

Let them declutter = let them eat cake

@lynsey91

I honestly cannot see the situation improving before about July/August or possibly even later.

The trouble is so many people were saying at the start of the first lockdown in March 2020 that it would all be over in a couple of months. Not sure why they thought that unless they were just being optimistic.

I always thought it obvious that things would get worse when the weather got colder.

People were saying that, but they were also saying we might have a second wave in the autumn. Things did get a bit better, but then we did get the second wave. Once the most vulnerable people are vaccinated the pressure on hospitals will go down and we should be able to lift some restrictions. I don't know when that would be though. I'm presuming that the people being vaccinated now are ones that would generally be too old for respirators and the like anyway so do we need to get down to the people in their 60s to make a difference? There is a worry about the South African strain being resistant to the vaccine.

@amitoooldforthisshit

think 2024 not before...I'm not joking

I won't live like this until 2024. There are plenty of people already not following the rules so I don't think I'll be the only one in 3 years' time. Unless there's a soldier with a gun outside every home you're not going to be able to enforce a 3 year non-stop lockdown.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow

I was ok until the news about the SA strain maybe being vaccine resistant. I’m so so fed up today

Yes, that bothers me too. However, they did say it wouldn't take that long to get a new vaccine to combat it.

Yes, that bothers me too. However, they did say it wouldn't take that long to get a new vaccine to combat it.

They wouldn't have to get a new vaccine. They'd just need to 'tweak' the existing ones, as they do with the flu vaccines every year.

Plus, it's all very well to demand that others make sacrifices for 'society', but society also needs people to work, pay taxes and do all the things that make life worthwhile. The virus isn't the only game in town.

This in spades.

I had it back at the end of Feb/beginning of March 2020 and it took me three weeks to recover. It was painful and felt like I'd gone several rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime. Awful. I am 30.

Yes, and one in three people who get it don’t even have any symptoms! Hardly worth destroying the economy over.

I think the vaccine is what will determine when. So my guess is that by June or July most restrictions will be lifted. Though it may not mean you can go on holiday to just any country I suspect.

Jan-end of Feb will dire. Then a slow (very slow) improvement from March onwards. From Summer a definite improvement. There better be, as I’m on a total detox from now until things improve! I better be glowing lol

If it turns out that reinfection is the norm, then we are looking at a virus with the potential to kill or leave debilitated vast numbers of people, and which comes around like a common cold. If it leaves you unscathed on one infection, it might not the next
I've been thinking this since the kick off:(

It does seem relentless. I am going to turn off the news and read some books. I have a nice throw DH bought me and a candle.

@Sitt “ Spring isn't far away, throw yourself into a hobby, redecorate maybe, de-clutter, get some good books and focus on getting through this week by week till it's a bit better.”

Haha there speaks someone who isn’t entertaining preschoolers all day"

Ha! My thoughts exactly! Good luck with that three under 6 here, preschool , homeschool plus a baby .

Deep Impact was on the other day and I watched the people sitting there as Morgan Freeman explained the bunkers and lottery system. Made me feel like this isn’t so bad!

No I dont expect normal until 2023.

To those who know about tweaking vaccines, as I am asking on another thread
If it needs to be tweaked for a SA mutation, what about a Singapore mutation, or a Japanese one, or a Nigerian one or whatever.

I’m in the second to bottom priority group. According to the vaccine calculator I’m due to have mine in December 2021.

So not sure how they are going to open up society in Spring or whenever when 1/2 the priority groups haven’t been vaccinated.

I do get annoyed with all the posts saying 'under 50s only get it mildly' - well bully for them! I am over 65 and I don't want to get it!

I have had enough of this incompetent criminal Government, looks like the great reset is in full swing and they are not even hiding it. I look forward to the day everyone in the country starts to fight back, this is not about a Pandemic, we are being lied too.

We’re not.

@MagicSummer I have heard today that an under 50 I know has just been taken to hospital, not on a ventilator yet but it's looking possible.
To be fair, I don't know what underlying conditions they might have, but they appear slim,fit and healthy.
So it's not necessarily mild in under 50s.
I'm feeling very shocked, sad and fed up today.

The vaccine will mean that the disease is almost always only mild even in the vulnerable and the elderly - something already true for healthy people under 50.

Please can I point out that being over 50 does not make you elderly and / or necessarily likely to suffer badly with covid.

Am 51 and this thread has made me feel ancient 😫.

Oh yes we are ! Have a gander at 2017/18 NHS facing exceptional pressure. When do "leaders" tell the truth, they only want you to follow.Out of this shite should come revolution on a global scale.

A scientist on the BBC was just saying currently about 10% of people who get covid will get long term problems - so that means out of 50k cases per day 5000 people every day will end up with long covid.

Doesn't sound like such a mild illness...

The extra worry and sadness being post long Covid syndrome will be a massive drain on already overwhelmed NHS resourcing! Is it the next cancer? Any scientists knowledgeable to dispel or add further insights?

Was I the only one who went to bed early last night, whilst huge quiet tears just fell down my face? No ugly crying, just despair.

oh no op, I hope you feel better today. Honestly things will get better and I bet by the end of summer life will be alot more like life as we know it. The vaccine will make a massive difference. People will hold hands again and see each others faces...