Stricter than Tier 4 (with school closures)

[Chimpanme]

I just read about Boris saying there was going to be a stricter lockdown, I am really close to losing my shit - I have been shielding since the start of March, with one break for two weeks where I had some normality.

I do do my daily exercise (when I can) and on the way back I pick up my snob coffee (and once a week they give me shopping as well) with a pre-paid system in place. I'm in T4, non-essential shops are closed, schools are closed, people are advised to work from home.

How can it get stricter than this please? Are they going to stop daily exercise?

They are unlikely to stop outside exercise... mental health, obesity , low transmission risk
More likely
School closures (last of all primary) , bigger wfh push, more use of masks eg in offices, one person in shops rule

Well, given that other countries who locked down 'properly' have similar or higher death rates than us, I don't see how that would be justified. I'm sure some on here would absolutely love that though.

Schools are only closed for two weeks. I'd say a stricter lockdown would mean schools closing for longer.

Less mixing outside too - we went out for a walk yesterday and there were lots of people out in large groups, not distancing.

I'm guessing schools closed and no more sitting for a snack on a walk (which is stupid to me, my dc need to eat on a walk). Also maybe only one walk a day again (eugh!) And no more driving to exercise maybe

@borntohula

Well, given that other countries who locked down 'properly' have similar or higher death rates than us, I don't see how that would be justified. I'm sure some on here would absolutely love that though.

Examples please of which countries do you mean.

@TheSunIsStillShining Italy, for one. Their lockdown was far stricter than ours - in some regions people were only allowed out of their homes for essential food and medicine and work that couldn't be done from home (no exercise) for a time. Others had to stay within a mile of home. And they had curfews and permission slips to be outside.

Their death rate is the highest per capita in Europe.

I thinking -
Schools shut for longer
Universities/colleges also
Masks pretty much everywhere (other than private homes!?).
Stricter exercise lockdown.
Fewer shops within ‘essential’ category.
One person per shop visit.
Further items rationed by supermarkets ?
Further international travel restrictions

Possible forward planning now Re exams but I’m guessing this won’t be dealt with until a late dis-organised shambles with I turns as last summer.

Looking at other countries the following are options of serious enough -
Curfew
Form to fill in if leaving home
Building sites closed down

Italy is in fact the only example and Italy had the misfortune to be hit hard first

Countries like Germany are doing much better

Belgium?
France?
Spain?
... Peru?

Peru

Who had a simultaneous cholera outbreak, showing the damage done by having an overworked health service

Spain lower fatality rate
France lower fatality rate

Spain haven't counted fully yet.

[quote EeeehElsie]@TheSunIsStillShining Italy, for one. Their lockdown was far stricter than ours - in some regions people were only allowed out of their homes for essential food and medicine and work that couldn't be done from home (no exercise) for a time. Others had to stay within a mile of home. And they had curfews and permission slips to be outside.

Their death rate is the highest per capita in Europe.[/quote]
Could you link to which figures you're looking at please? Because the WHO stats still have the UK as the highest?
Maybe they haven't been updated though.

@SOLINVICTUS
Here

It has changed - while Italy is no longer top, the UK still trails it in terms of deaths per capita.