Are any other teachers considering not returning to work until after they have vaccine...

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And other protections have been provided for them and students?
I have asked my DH not to go back to work in schools until after he has been vaccinated and until measures are in place to allow them to social distance and protect children and staff.
I have seen many threads of parents who simply cannot cope without their children attending schools and I understand this (and ideally would support schools being open in a safe manner). However the right to education for children does not trump the right to be safe at work.
I feel we as a society have failed teachers and pupils by allowing/expecting them to continue to work in an unsustainable manner throughout this pandemic.
I do not want my DH to be at risk, and I wonder how many other teachers/spouses of teachers are feeling the same? Are any others considering leaving the profession even temporarily until their safety is made more of a consideration?

@Newname1234567 so sorry for your losses and for your family member with long COVID I hope she/he recovers. It’s so sad that this has impacted your plans but it’s a reality that these considerations are necessary right now. I saw on another thread five people who have handed their notice in.

Why don’t they just vaccinate all teachers next week then send them back to work

@Flev thank you for that. It is helpful and I would never have found it!

@Emmie12345

Why don’t they just vaccinate all teachers next week then send them back to work

This would only help teachers. Not the nhs not the students not their families

Vaccines don’t prevent transmission but getting that ill that you need a bed in icu. It doesn’t make sense that a 22yo healthy teacher would get vaccined next week instead of a 70yo pensioner with health problems who if they caught COVID would need a bed in the hospital for a month

I'm back in tomorrow

How would you feel if all the other key workers were as selfish as you?
Would you like to have no food on supermarket shelves, no bin collections, no NHS...?

I have no qualms with being as selfish as you like when it comes to the health of my husband, as you are about the education of your children. The difference is I would stand behind all of those key workers who were put in an untenable position endangering their health whereas you belittle the concerns of teachers (and their families)

NHS are getting vaccinated, bin collectors have no contact with people and can wear masks and gloves.

@KatherineOfGaunt I meant September 2022! 🤦‍♀️ whoops 😂

YABU. Schools are a hot bed of germs all the time. You don’t fear for his safety when the flu or Norovirus are going around. He’s not in an at risk group, if he catches it all the chances are he’ll feel mildly unwell at worst. I have total sympathy with teachers who are in the CEV category, but the hysteria from otherwise healthy adults is ridiculous. Society would cease if everyone had your attitude - there would be nobody working in hospitals, food factories, distribution, supermarkets etc.

I am considering handing my notice in. I am clinically vulnerable, expected to mix with adults and children with no protection. I am sick of the constant anxiety and terrified of bringing the virus home to my clinically vulnerable husband.

[quote KatherineOfGaunt]@EasterIssland

This one - www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

I thought I did this same one a week or two ago and it said estimated vaccine around July this year. But now I seem to have jumped down the list.

I'm 39, no other conditions.[/quote]
I saw the calculator and it was for the 2 doses - I wonder if the gap between vaccines has increased the time?

@blackwych I’m so sorry, yes the anxiety in your situation must be scary. I hope it helps to know that others are feeling the same

@HermioneWeasley perhaps I am, but telling people who are scared that they shouldn’t be scared does not remove the fear.

@HermioneWeasley

YABU. Schools are a hot bed of germs all the time. You don’t fear for his safety when the flu or Norovirus are going around. He’s not in an at risk group, if he catches it all the chances are he’ll feel mildly unwell at worst. I have total sympathy with teachers who are in the CEV category, but the hysteria from otherwise healthy adults is ridiculous. Society would cease if everyone had your attitude - there would be nobody working in hospitals, food factories, distribution, supermarkets etc.

💯 this

If I was still in teaching I have no doubt at all that I would have quit sometime in the past year.

[quote KatherineOfGaunt]@EasterIssland

This one - www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

I thought I did this same one a week or two ago and it said estimated vaccine around July this year. But now I seem to have jumped down the list.

I'm 39, no other conditions.[/quote]
This is the same one used, I swear last week it said September! Now it says January to June next year! But I suppose it will change quite a lot at the moment as the schedule is changing

@KatherineOfGaunt @EasterIssland this happened to me but if you go under advanced, and change the rate of vaccination to 2m a week, it reverts to the previous assumption of jul- sept ish

@KatherineOfGaunt@EasterIssland I hope if nothing else this thread helps people know about this calculator. I just checked DH would be end of the year.

I would advise anyone with a job to hang onto it. There is going to be a very tough rescission in the next few years. Huge job losses and unemployment

No, I need to work to pay the bills. Also I like it.

@Emmie12345

Why don’t they just vaccinate all teachers next week then send them back to work

They’d still complain and want paid time off until the jab-site boo-boo didn’t hurt anymore.

YANBU. My friend has done exactly that. She’s 40 and living with her mum who has poor health. She was a teacher for about 15 years but just felt so let down by the government because they didn’t implement mask wearing or any of the other measures they could have taken to improve safety in schools. Ultimately she decided the risk of killing her mum wasn’t worth it, if the government wasn’t going to protect her she’d protect herself. So she resigned from her teaching job. Thankfully her mum owns the house so she has a roof over her head. She’s managed to get an office job, her salary has halved but she only has contact with half a dozen people and they’re SD with masks on. I guess she’ll probably return to teaching when the pandemic is over.

@SpikySara exactly, the government aren’t protecting teachers, the unions don’t seem to be doing a great job which means teachers need to protect themselves. Walking away if necessary until they feel safe. I appreciate my/my DH’s position is privileged in that we should be able to cope with belt tightening and savings (for a period anyway) and was wondering how others in similar positions were feeling.

Truthfully if I was in that situation I’d do the same. Even if it meant losing my home. You can recover from having to sell your house - you can’t recover from dying.