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58 parties broken up in London on NYE - we've no hope.

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itsgettingweird · 01/01/2021 13:03

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London. Where this new variant is spreading like wildfire and often very asymptomatically (mistaken for a cold in mild cases) and thousands are mixing at parties and then most likely with their families.

Surely we need a new strategy now from government. A serious message and no waffling and slogans.

What if someone at this party got too drunk and/or injured? They'd expect healthcare. Are they relying on some poor consultant to decide if they get life saving treatment above an 80yo covid patient because they are more likely to survive.

I think we need to stop fining the organisers and five EVERYONE who attends. Then put that money into the NHS.

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SquirmOfEels · 01/01/2021 13:06

And that's just the ones that were big/noisy enough for people to notice and police to attend.

Goodness only knows how many others actually took place.

We'll see it reflected in the numbers in about a week, I suppose

viccat · 01/01/2021 13:16

I don't think anything will stop some people at this point.

I'm in London and the local FB group has lots of people in any covid related discussion still saying the virus is not real and there are no NHS pressures, even coming up with their own made up stats and sources to show there have not been covid deaths.

Then there are those who consider their own risk to be so low/non-existent that they don't care - and will not make any sacrifices to protect others because they're selfish...

itsgettingweird · 01/01/2021 13:17

I never get the made up bit.

I can see why some people aren't concerned because they personally are low risk. It's selfish but at least they acknowledge it exists!

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NastyBlouse · 01/01/2021 13:20

There are nearly seven million people in London. Fewer than 60 attendable parties across all that isn’t bad, considering. Most UK police services seem to be guardedly pleased, overall, and saying that the majority of people did stay at home. It was certainly very quiet around here (SW central London). Most years it’s party central around here on NYE (loads of young people in this area, I’m the Resident Fart).

WanderingFruitWonderer · 01/01/2021 13:21

It's very worrying. Unfortunately I think some people are in complete denial of the seriousness of the situation. I know people like that. Not by any means bad people. Generally very good kind people. But for whatever reason, unable to grasp how grave the current situation is. I don't know what the answer is...

WanderingFruitWonderer · 01/01/2021 13:25

@NastyBlouse when you put it that way, it's true, it doesn't sound so bad. But I reckon there were more small quiet gatherings of mixed households too. I know some people who openly admitted it (though I'm not in London). I can't guess at the numbers. But yes, I guess given the population of London, it could have been considerably worse...

AaronPurr · 01/01/2021 13:26

There are nearly seven million people in London. Fewer than 60 attendable parties

Confused It was 58 parties, not people.

Panickingpavlova · 01/01/2021 13:26

What constituents a party? What is the classification?.
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What is the difference between a party for 30 in someone's flat and 30 dc plus additional tas and teachers in a classroom?

CeibaTree · 01/01/2021 13:30

@AaronPurr

There are nearly seven million people in London. Fewer than 60 attendable parties

Confused It was 58 parties, not people.

Ok but say 30 people per party, so 2040 people out of 7 million is 0.029% so Confused to you too :)
AaronPurr · 01/01/2021 13:30

Ah appologies I read attendable as attended, so feel free to ignore my previous post. Even so, 58 parties (and however many other parties which weren't attended by police) in the current situation is pretty shocking.

HistoryKitty · 01/01/2021 13:37

@AaronPurr

There are nearly seven million people in London. Fewer than 60 attendable parties

Confused It was 58 parties, not people.

Let's assume there were 100 people at each party. 100 parties of 60 is 6000 people. Out of a population of 7m thats 0.09%.
Probably double or triple that figure for those gatherings that went undetected? 0.27%? Still selfish as hell and I'm sure those 6000 people will be spreading the virus far and wide but its not like most of London was partying last night.
TempsPerdu · 01/01/2021 13:38

I’m amazed it wasn’t more tbh. London’s population is 9 million. 58 parties out of a population that big - well, I can’t get especially excited about that. You’re never going to get blanket compliance.

I live in north London and the rules were very well observed here as far as I can tell - certainly no parties in my immediate neighbourhood.

PleasantVille · 01/01/2021 13:46

@Panickingpavlova

What constituents a party? What is the classification?. . What is the difference between a party for 30 in someone's flat and 30 dc plus additional tas and teachers in a classroom?
Is that a serious question?

Schools can't have changed so much since I left that classrooms now resemble drunken/drugged up/snogging/shagging NYE parties.

MN is becoming obsessed, not every thread has to derailed to be about schools.

sashagabadon · 01/01/2021 13:49

That’s a pretty low number considering the number of people that live in London. The quietest London New Year for policing prob since they are first invented by Robert Peeler

mrshoho · 01/01/2021 13:49

It's the cowardly keyboard warriors all over SM that I blame. From the start they have minimised the virus, sneered at face masks, ridiculed people following the restrictions as sheep/sheple. Denied any crisis in the NHS. Demanded we just get back to normal and let the vulnerable shield. How many times have we read posts on here like that?

I think the numbers involved in these gatherings were thankfully v low.

Youngatheart00 · 01/01/2021 13:51

No matter how low the proportion of rule breakers, they are still totally despicable

Etinox · 01/01/2021 13:57

It’s not so many. London is enormous and densely populated, I was out 6-10, the buses were empty, no one on the streets.

BunsyGirl · 01/01/2021 13:57

This has been going on all over the country for months. A few months ago a police officer friend of mine raided a wedding which was being attended by 80 people. WTF were those people thinking. It’s a small minority though. Pretty much everyone I know has followed the rules from day one with the odd minor breach. E.G. I hugged my best mate earlier this year.

FeelingBIue · 01/01/2021 14:13

So there were no parties ANYWHERE else in the country?

Just London?

letsmakethetea · 01/01/2021 14:20

@NastyBlouse

There are nearly seven million people in London. Fewer than 60 attendable parties across all that isn’t bad, considering. Most UK police services seem to be guardedly pleased, overall, and saying that the majority of people did stay at home. It was certainly very quiet around here (SW central London). Most years it’s party central around here on NYE (loads of young people in this area, I’m the Resident Fart).
This is where my mind when TBH - that's a very small number considering the size of London!
Mulhollandmagoo · 01/01/2021 14:21

[quote WanderingFruitWonderer]@NastyBlouse when you put it that way, it's true, it doesn't sound so bad. But I reckon there were more small quiet gatherings of mixed households too. I know some people who openly admitted it (though I'm not in London). I can't guess at the numbers. But yes, I guess given the population of London, it could have been considerably worse...[/quote]
Absolutely, there will have been quite a lot of people who just had a couple of friends/family member over, which don't seem a lot but likely to have a big impact!

It's frustrating because no secret has been made of the fact that the NHS was struggling prior to Christmas, so now with people mixing over Christmas/New Year there is going to be even more pressure over the next few weeks, which everyone knew was a possibility but some people went ahead and did it anyway. What is also really frustrating, is that (rightly or wrongly) the government made it possible for some people to see family on Christmas day (apart from the poor tier 4 areas 🥺) as they placed an element of importance on mental health, and it still wasn't good enough for some and they had to have NYE gatherings too.

Hopefully most people are too skint and it'll be too cold in January for people to do things 🤞

orangenasturtium · 01/01/2021 14:25

@Panickingpavlova

What constituents a party? What is the classification?. . What is the difference between a party for 30 in someone's flat and 30 dc plus additional tas and teachers in a classroom?
I would guess there were a lot more house parties than the ones that got broken up and the ones that did get caught were not 30 people in a flat reported by their neighbours.

We had vans of riot police turn up on our street shortly after midnight and drunken people wandering around until 3am last night. The party that got broken up wasn't a bunch of friends toasting the new year, it was a full scale event.

southeastdweller · 01/01/2021 14:30

More shit slogans from the useless government would make fuck all difference now. Parties, at any time in the year, will go on and on, just like other types of households mixing.

KitKatastrophe · 01/01/2021 14:36

58 doesn't sound like many. Any sensible government would account for a certain amount of rule breaking in their modelling. Saying "we have no hope" because a few hundred people out of millions in London is a bit hyperbolic dont you think?

GabsAlot · 01/01/2021 14:51

thats only the ones they broke up what about all the others

i know of someone whose mixing all the time because i quote

if i was going to get it i would hav go it by now"

you cant reason with stupid

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