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How much more can we take? Is the end really in sight?.

62 replies

starship08 · 30/12/2020 19:09

I’m not trying to a pessimist, definitely not trying to be the doom and gloom type.

I felt incredibly positive this morning after hearing the news of the Oxford Vaccine.

I’ve tried so hard to keep positive and hopeful, but after watching the update tonight I can’t help but feel negative.

We still don’t know if the vaccine reduces transmission, which means even if the vulnerable are protected, they will still need to distance to prevent spread.

Boris and JVT mentioned that masks could be a long term measure, even after vaccines.Confused

We still don’t know for certain that the vaccine will be effective for the new strain.

I honestly don’t know how much more I can take of this.

I’m totally and utterly fed up. I was diagnosed with PND and I know this is playing a part in how I’m feeling, but I struggling so much to see a future that’s bright.

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Iootraw1 · 30/12/2020 19:25

Oh starship08 feeling the same tonight. I’ve been so strong (at least I thought I was), staying positive, following the rules and guidance....but tonight after hearing my children’s education is once again to be disrupted and more and more of the country being put into tier 4, I suddenly feel low and hope I can stay strong to endure however many MORE weeks of not goingout, not seeing my friends or family. Probably doesn’t help that Xmas day plans were cancelled and now my birthday coming up and there’s nothing I can really do on that day either....
It’s really hard isn’t it? Not just this being cancelled and that being put off but the ongoing monotonous grind and no date to work towards as to when we will be ‘released’. I just hope that tomorrow I will wake up feeling better and more myself again. You are not alone OP - sending heartfelt best wishes to you - stay strong. X

Manzanilla55 · 30/12/2020 19:39

Yes the idea of having to wear masks indefinitely isn't very comforting.

Schonerlebnis · 30/12/2020 19:43

You're not alone OP. I'm recovering from covid, 4 weeks in, can just about potter around the house, not been out for a month. Can't have the vaccine yet (frontline NHS) as I'm still symptomatic and feel massively guilty about letting colleagues down still dealing with this shit. Above all I'm petrified about catching it again as it was probably the illest I've ever been.
I try to keep away from social media as that was ramping up my anxiety.
Tv remote and kindle are my friends Wink my children are teens so don't need constant entertainment. There is no easy solution, can't offer reassurance, but we will get there. Look at how quickly a vaccine was developed, another new drug has been discovered that may reduce the severity of the illness, and more will come along. That's what we have to hold onto...best wishes anyway op Flowers

Spiratedaway · 30/12/2020 20:11

I could have written this myself but he did say people will wear voluntarily it wasn't going to be law

Inkpaperstars · 30/12/2020 20:19

They have not yet completed the testing needed to show the vaccine is effective against the new strain, but reading between the lines they seem fairly confident it will be. If it isn’t it could be adjusted apparently and wouldn’t be back to square one. There might be other mutations that would pose much more of an issue which is another reason why it is important to keep case numbers down in all populations, to reduce the chances for mutating. But I think there is reason for hope re the vaccine and this new strain we are currently facing.

Regarding transmission, we don’t yet know but the vaccine might prevent or dramatically reduce the risk of transmission. We just need to wait to find that out, and if it doesn’t then in time when a wider number have been vaccinated that will matter less anyway as they will be unlikely to become very ill even if they catch it.

Trekkerbabe · 30/12/2020 20:22

I'm feeling totally shite after the news tonight too. My kids wont be at school next week as we are in one of the areas where primaries wont be opening. I work full time and am single so the horror of lockdown 1 just hit me again. I dont know how I'm going to get through this either. Feeling your pain xx

HibernatingTill2030 · 30/12/2020 20:27

I think we're at the beginning of the end, but have a way to go yet.
I just really hope people listen about not having gatherings tomorrow. Those who caught it around Christmas will be right at the most infectious stage.

We're in a much, much better place than we were in April at the first peak.

HopeAndDriftWood · 30/12/2020 20:28

I’d take a “normal” life in June, but masked. It’ll take time but it’s okay.

Lemoncheesecake31 · 30/12/2020 20:31

I feel the same, I was hoping things would be looking up by March/April but it doesn’t seem that way when hearing them talk. Although Boris seems to think Easter.

Manzanilla55 · 30/12/2020 20:57

Has the government ever been right about timescales? Unfortunately not. Early summer maybe a semblance of normality. Maybe. I suspect the rapid vaccine rollout will take much longer than they anticipate. I would however be happy to be proven wrong!

MyPersona · 30/12/2020 21:21

@starship08

I’m not trying to a pessimist, definitely not trying to be the doom and gloom type.

I felt incredibly positive this morning after hearing the news of the Oxford Vaccine.

I’ve tried so hard to keep positive and hopeful, but after watching the update tonight I can’t help but feel negative.

We still don’t know if the vaccine reduces transmission, which means even if the vulnerable are protected, they will still need to distance to prevent spread.

Boris and JVT mentioned that masks could be a long term measure, even after vaccines.Confused

We still don’t know for certain that the vaccine will be effective for the new strain.

I honestly don’t know how much more I can take of this.

I’m totally and utterly fed up. I was diagnosed with PND and I know this is playing a part in how I’m feeling, but I struggling so much to see a future that’s bright.

Boris and JVT mentioned that masks could be a long term measure, even after vaccines.

What I heard JVT say was that some people may choose to continue with measures like hand washing and mask wearing.

daisypond · 30/12/2020 21:25

I’m cautiously optimistic and now more hopeful that things will be more normal by late summer. Mask wearing is fine by me and masks might be here to stay.

Porcupineintherough · 30/12/2020 21:29

Yes the end is in sight. But it's not going to happen all at once, life will go back to normal bit by bit.

LastTrainEast · 30/12/2020 21:31

Things WILL get better soon. Most people will be vaccinated and even if that's not a total protection it will control the virus enough that we can get back to normal.

We even have treatments now for those that might still catch it. We just have to get past this point where people are being exposed to it in large numbers. We can handle the occasional sufferer as we do for other diseases.

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2020 21:34

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We still don’t know if the vaccine reduces transmission, which means even if the vulnerable are protected, they will still need to distance to prevent spread."
Why do you think this?

nevereverplease · 30/12/2020 21:36

OP I feel the same. Utterly saddened today, honestly I'm angry too. Just angry about everything.

The whole thing is just so sad. Sorry I have nothing useful to say.

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2020 21:39

I'm amazed to read this. Today has been a day of joy and hope for me, the first in a hell of a long time. This vaccine can be transferred into local areas to be administered. What's not to love?

inquietant · 30/12/2020 21:41

Although Boris seems to think Easter

Surely no one still belives his bullshit? Jam tomorrow!

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 30/12/2020 21:42

@MyPersona I would hope people continue with hand washing as prevents many things , as surprised at how many people used to leave loo without washing their hands
Masks can do one though although maybe good idea to wear if you have a cold , although would be better if lot of work places didn't force people in with colds in first place especially if they can wfh for couple days

AxMan76 · 30/12/2020 21:42

@StealthPolarBear

“ We still don’t know if the vaccine reduces transmission, which means even if the vulnerable are protected, they will still need to distance to prevent spread." Why do you think this?
It was on the briefing tonight
daisypond · 30/12/2020 21:43

Maybe I’ve missed something, but surely the new vaccine and its mass rollout is good. Only a few more weeks and it will start to make a difference. Why are people saddened?

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2020 21:43

No I mean why, if the vast majority of people will only suffer mild symptoms would we need to continue to distance?
We don't do this for any number of other mild illnesses

Amidone · 30/12/2020 21:44

Stealth JvT said at the press conference today that they don't yet know if the vaccines reduce transmission to others. They are monitoring it but won't know for a few months.

inquietant · 30/12/2020 21:44

We still don’t know if the vaccine reduces transmission, which means even if the vulnerable are protected, they will still need to distance to prevent spread."
Why do you think this?

Because if the virus can still spread, then eventually it will kill those who can't have the vaccine for clinical reasons, and immunity from the vaccine is expected to wear off anyway. Plus all the younger people who haven;t been vaccinated will be at risk of long coovid.

They haven't talked much about long covid due to the primary focus being hospitalisations/deaths, but it is a real risk to the working age population and to NHS budgets going forwards.

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2020 21:46

Eg flu, chickenpox, whooping cough.
Vaccines for all. Some still get it. I didn't give those things a second thought other than in very specific circumstances pre-covid.why would covid with a vaccine be different?

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