Confused as to how they got Covid 19.

[ConfusedCarrie]

I work in a school and had a positive case so our bubble closed on the 14th. Two other people tested positive so I phoned 119 and booked a test. They advised 2 of my DSs to test too. I tested negative but all DSs tested positive.

I work in a school, do the shopping etc.
DS2 is furloughed and has rarely left the house since April.
DS3 is at college but because of the course he is doing and guidelines clashing with H&S rules, he has been at home since March.
DS1, DIL and DGSs also tested as part of our support bubble.
DS1 is a keyworker delivering to the NHS.
DIL rarely goes out as she had a c section 8 weeks ago.
DGS1 and 2 don't go to school yet and don't go out much.
DGS3 obviously doesn't go out much as only 8 weeks old.
DS1 and DGS3 tested negative. Everyone else tested positive.

What I don't understand is how they caught the virus as they have stay at home for most of the time.

If DS1 is in your support bubble and is working delivering to the NHS then presumably through him?

You can carry it to them

Well the only way to not catch it is to not see anyone ever. So one of you has come in contact with the virus.

I would personally get a retest for yourself, was your test self administered?

Hope the family get better soon

Not really sure what you mean? Anyone of you could have bought the virus into your bubble at any time.
You don't have to go out all the time to pick it up.

Could your ds1 not have picked it up at work and had mild/no symptoms, but been infectious and passed it on to everyone else? Then by the time the rest of the family were tested and found to be positive, he was no longer producing enough virus for a positive test, even though he was possibly the index case in your household?

Similarly people could perhaps have got it from you, but by the time you were tested you weren't producing enough virus.

So perhaps it's most likely either you or your ds1 were the index case for this family outbreak. Plus of course either you or your ds1 could have had a false negative this time round while being just as infected as everyone else.

You might wish to get the antibody test. This may show you had it, was asymptomatic and passed it on or your DS1 did

Well done your DS3 having not left home since last March.

That's a rather large support bubble

You may have had it then recovered or someone else may have caught it elsewhere, e.g. at the park or supermarket.

Maybe one of you had an asymptomatic case and passed it on. By the time you tested it perhaps too long after to show as positive?

Well like other people have said, you only test positive for a short window so can be incubating the virus and test negative, can have had the virus with little symptoms and no longer testing negative as it was too long ago, could be a false negative etc.
To answer your question ‘where could they have got it’ well you do realise that just because an activity is ‘allowed’ eg going to the supermarket, school, doctors, etc etc it isn’t risk free from catching covid? Every contact you have is a risk, so the postman could have it, hand you your parcel and you could catch it (very unlikely but it’s not 100% risk free) you could have queued in front of someone who had it, the midwives or health visitors could have it asymptomatically and have passed it on during a routine check up. Anytime anyone leaves the house for whatever reason they run the risk of catching it and bringing it back to the house.

It is quite bizarre indeed. It should be via your DS1 or yourself. Yet you both are negative. I wonder if your results are right? You still have to isolate, assuming you are in one or two households. Do you have to re-test later on?

@slidingdrawers its 2 households? OP and her sons that live at home, plus her eldest and his household. What's the problem?

Has DIL had medical appointments due to having recently given birth? Might have picked it up at those? Have DGS1 and DGS2 played with other children, eg at a playground?

@redsky21 my understanding and reading of the rules is that a single adult or one adult with children can join another household to form a support bubble. OP's DS's at home don't sound like children to me, though I may be wrong.

You can have a support bubble with a baby under 1 so they qualify.

@slidingdrawers

That's a rather large support bubble

And? Larger households are allowed to form support bubbles in the same way smaller ones are. It's still two households one of which has a child under 1 so 'allowed' 🙄

The family with the 8 week old can form a support bubble as per rules from December.

Hope you and your family all stay well x

@slidingdrawers the eldest son has a child under 1, therefore is eligible to form a support bubble with another household.

Depending on the timing of your test, you could have had it but by the time you tested, you were past the point where the test picks up the virus in your system. That's why they recommend testing within X number of days from symptoms starting.

I'd think you were the original carrier.
Not that it matters.

Loads of possible contacts there, you could have caught it in a myriad of ways. Possible that you managed to spread it but your test was inaccurate too.

[quote redsky21]@slidingdrawers its 2 households? OP and her sons that live at home, plus her eldest and his household. What's the problem?[/quote]
I thought only single people were allowed to be support bubbles with families in other houses ? Not two families in separate houses?

For those querying our support bubble. DS2 is just 18 (after June) and DS3 is 16. Also DS1 and DIL have a baby under a year old.

I don't think either of us had it and passed it on as you will get a positive result for 90 days after you've had the virus.

DS1 doesnt go to the hospitals etc. He is the transport coordinator but he does have contact with the drivers.

DIL has been to medical appointments but midwife and health visitor have been to their home.

You don't always get a positive result for 90 days after though. You might but it is not always.

There are people in your household who venture in to the outside world. Therefore they can be infected and one or more of them have been and have brought it home and infected others who have not been out.

@mushmonster
That's what we thought. I've had 2 negatives. One on the 18th and one yesterday for my job.

Yes we have all had to isolate because technically I still could have caught the virus from my DSs.