Bubble question

[Ilovesweets123]

My mother in law has a support bubble with her mum, who is 83 and lives alone.
I have a child under one so am allowed to bubble with one other household. Am I able to bubble with her even though she has a bubble with her mum already?
I don't have anyone else within 40 miles that I can bubble with :(

I wonder if the rules would stretch to ... your MIL can keep her mum company & attend to her mother for 'care reasons' and still bubble with yourself+tot.

Nice that your MIL wants to support you.

Within the 'rules' 2 people can't bubble with the same household

Just do it. You need the support. It is isolating and this lockdown is going to go on for ages. I don’t see a real problem with it as long as you are all safe.

No, I'm afraid you can only have one bubble - so no more than 2 households per bubble.

You can as your MIL can class the support she gives to her mum as caring for a vulnerable person which is allowed regardless of if someone already has a bubble. We are doing exactly the same thing. People on here will tell you it’s not “allowed” but let’s face it we are in this until easter and you need some support! I have a 5 month old and it’s bloody hard at the moment. All those commenting that you shouldn’t probably haven’t gone through the nightmare of being pregnant and having a baby during this awful year.

All 3 of you are eligible to create a support bubble but only with one other household. I get what people are saying about your MIL possibly being defined as providing care for her mother. However, that is still your MIL's one allowed bubble. I understood that the receiver of care could have a bubble in addition to their care, but not the care giver. Surely, that's just two bubbles for MIL? Also, have you asked the 83 year old about this as she's the one who's most at risk?
This might help clarify things:
www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household#how-support-bubbles-relate-to-other-types-of-bubble

And this is the making a bubble bit:
"You can form a support bubble with another household of any size if:

you live by yourself – even if carers visit you to provide support
you are the only adult in your household who does not need continuous care as a result of a disability
your household includes a child who is under the age of one or was under that age on 2 December 2020
your household includes a child with a disability who requires continuous care and is under the age of 5, or was under that age on 2 December 2020
you are aged 16 or 17 living with others of the same age and without any adults
you are a single adult living with one or more children who are under the age of 18 or were under that age on 12 June 2020

You should not form a support bubble with a household that is part of another support bubble."

No you can’t, she can only be in one support bubble. Do you have any friends you can bubble with instead? Otherwise could her mum move in with her then you bubble with them both?