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Personal responsibility

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Jourdain11 · 29/12/2020 00:09

It seems like some people are desperate to be locked down, while others are desperate to be let out. Some people want there to be more rules, others don't care how many rules there are because they will break them all anyway.

The way it seems to me, a mandatory lockdown of any severity just isn't going to work any more. Everyone can always argue that it's not right that you can do one thing but not the other... there's no point while schools are open... or that keeping schools open is the only important thing and everything else should be sacrificed in order to do so. Christmas is a case in point: a load of additional restrictions put in place, but how many people went ahead with their plans anyway?

Those who don't give a damn will continue not to give a damn: if they can't meet up in a pub, they'll meet up in someone's home, and 9/10 times they'll get away with it.

And then there's the crucial point that, in order to bring about another "total lockdown", the government would have to actually get it past parliament. And that is by no means certain.

So isn't it time to simply ask people to be responsible, respectful and adult? Leave in place some restrictions about long distance travel and numbers of people who can meet up, perhaps, but otherwise simply put the responsibility onto each individual in the form of guidance.

If you work or live or come into contact with vulnerable people, it is wise to be more cautious. If you're a student and the people you're most likely to come into close and prolonged contact with are other non-vulnerable students, you can live a bit more freely. If you feel that you are vulnerable or need to protect yourself more, you should be permitted to wear PPE and distance at work, no matter what your profession. If you are clinically vulnerable, you should be certified as such and shielding and/or work from home or furlough should be facilitated.

Treat people like adults, and they might just start to behave like adults too!

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Googlebrained · 29/12/2020 10:37

It puts me in mind of that middle aged guy who was with his extended family in Brighton just before lockdown, three households together and he said that he knew they weren't supposed to be together but it was the Government's fault because they hadn't actually banned them from doing so.

I'm afraid this pandemic and many other incidents in the past has shown that a substantial minority of people don't want to be adult and responsible. I don't think anyone wants to stay at home, not see family, be banned from going to other people's houses, have all entertainment, hairdressers and non essential shops shut. But if it ends this sooner and stops our hospitals from being overrun then it's a price that many other people believe we have to pay.

But I think that a lot of people will only do that if they're made to because there's a massive amount of entitlement in this country.

Mulhollandmagoo · 29/12/2020 10:40

There will always be law breakers though @Jourdain11 . The vast majority of the British public has abided by the rules, often to vast personal disappointment

I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but my impression is that this is correct, the media/social media posts are very quick to show us the 10% of people who have swarmed to packed shopping centres and the 5% of MN posts about people they have seen mixing all over Christmas on Facebook, but they've completely missed out the very very overwhelming majority of people who just quietly followed the rules! London has been stung because they were placed in tier 2 by the government in the lead up to Christmas when they should have been tier 3 and there was the discovery of new, more infectious strain, the two combined is why the hospitals are now under strain

Bathroom12345 · 29/12/2020 10:45

Yes, that sense of entitlement to meet your family because after all you feel OK and they would LOVE to see you.

People who mooch around the shops en masse with the family because after all - there is nothing much else to do. Blame the government, blame your own MH (how many people are justifying their actions by claiming MH concerns).

Sorry but until we have serious consequences for people’s actions it’s not going to change. The people that have been caught having parties not just once but a number of times, they will have been fined but does anyone really think any fines will be paid. These people will claim they don’t have money and these are the people who have actually been caught!

Selfish selfish behaviour and some people are so thick they need it spelt out to them.

Northernbeachbum · 29/12/2020 10:46

So I asked a while back what people would do without regulations as my hope would be that we could all be trusted. The replies suggested that it would go wrong.....however i suspect that's what's happening now anyway

BarbaraBushy · 29/12/2020 10:53

The simple reason that what you're suggesting will never work is that the interpretation of what is 'responsible, respectful and adult' is about a million miles wide.

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