Do you want restrictions to continue beyond the vaccine?

[ciderfromalemon]

Very interested as I’m reading a mix of views on here about this.

Do you think restrictions should continue once all elderly and other vulnerable groups have been vaccinated? If yes, which restrictions should continue and how long for? What point can life return to ‘normal’ (eg do you think there needs to be a perfect cure/vaccine or Covid eliminated completely before normality). If no, why not?

No. As soon as the number of cases and hospitalisations is at a manageable level for the NHS they should start to ease up the restrictions.

There needs to be enough people vaccinated such that the virus spreading doesn't overwhelm medical services, or cause loads of people to be off sick thus affecting other services.

For example: other emergency services, factories, retail staff, repair services, etc. Stuff we rely on without thinking. Loads of jobs can't be done from home in any way.

No one wants to continue restrictions any longer than necessary. However we've seen what a rush to get back to "normal" achieved - back to stricter measures. :(

Thing is there is a small amount of people dying from covid in their 30s 40s 50s 60s that have no underlying conditions so until the vaccine starts to be rolled out until the masses restrictions will still be needed.

I think we need to reduce the mitigation in clear stages. So gradually reduce the tiers, and gradually reduce distancing and mask wearing. Then if numbers increase we know exactly what caused the increase.

Unfortunately our government are too stupid to come up with an actual plan where we can quantify anything.

I expect it will be a gradual easing.

Isn't that the point of the vaccine? So we can start to return to normal?

The problem will be individual risk, real or perceived. Some want it to be totally covid safe. I can't see that happening for a while.

No absolutely not. A small number of people that aren’t vulnerable due of lots of things, we need to start accepting death is a part of life as awful as that is and I’d be devastated obviously if it were my family.

Many many viruses kill those not vulnerable, we just need to control the number which vaccination of the vulnerable would achieve.

No absolutely not. Restrictions just move the virus further along the road. We need to accept that Covid is part of lives just like flu and colds.

No

@Wannabangbang

Thing is there is a small amount of people dying from covid in their 30s 40s 50s 60s that have no underlying conditions so until the vaccine starts to be rolled out until the masses restrictions will still be needed.

They won’t because the restrictions aren’t to stop a small number of people dying. They are to stop the NHS being overwhelmed.

Most people on here are enjoying either furlough, wfh, or are on benefits and do not have to attend job centre to sign on. Therefore they are under less pressure. Hence why so many people are calling for a lockdown. If you have kids and work full time then you want life to resume as per usual I have a holiday booked and I want to go

Continue with masks, hygiene then just hygiene.

The nhs is overwhelmed right now though and tiers are not working.

@Wannabangbang

Thing is there is a small amount of people dying from covid in their 30s 40s 50s 60s that have no underlying conditions so until the vaccine starts to be rolled out until the masses restrictions will still be needed.

Despite what you read on MN - where everyone knows at least one healthy 40 year old who was running marathons one day and in ICU with Covid the next - for most people under the age of 50 or so, Covid is a mild disease. Yes, unfortunately a small minority will suffer a serious illness, as they do with other viruses, but that would not justify imposing nationwide restrictions indefinitely.

Yes but I hate people

I really like the 2m rule in shops, even pre covid I used to hate someone breathing down your neck whilst waiting to pay!

Last 2 Christmas’ I got norovirus but didn’t this year so next dec I may wear a mask when out shopping, it was nice having a year off vomiting.

It wont be decided by looking at who has been vaccinated or not. It will be looking at hospital admissions, excess deaths etc. Those things should follow on from the vaccination but it will be when they do that things will change. Also I think case numbers need to be kept down until we have vaccinated more widely than just the vulnerable/elderly, otherwise we increase the risk of a mutation that may evade the current vaccines and put us back to square one hoping to alter the vaccines and re vaccinate everyone.

No way. We have to learn to live with this - it’s not going anywhere.

No, no, no. You can’t control a virus without destroying peoples lives. Enough.

@slipperywhensparticus

Yes but I hate people

So do I but I need need laws to keep away from them, I can manage that myself I support all restrictions going at the first possible opportunity.

@Wannabangbang

Thing is there is a small amount of people dying from covid in their 30s 40s 50s 60s that have no underlying conditions so until the vaccine starts to be rolled out until the masses restrictions will still be needed.

While this is very sad and I don’t want to appear callous, people die of lots of communicable diseases but we don’t have restrictions to prevent this. It’s just how things are.

No. But i get that we will have a gradual return to normal .

Yeah that is fuckin callous cardi.

Also not logical. This is a brand new pathogen, to which very few people yet have resistance. Which causes serious illness and/or complications in large enough numbers to mess up our over stretched and under funded health service.

Get on with it and who gives a fuck of people die isn't really an option, if you want to be treated for non covid illness, for example.

Good bloody grief, absolutely not

I think working from home should become a more accepted approach. In terms of flexibility it really does make a huge difference to work life balance. I know it’s not a restriction but the things that have become available for mail order (gifts, hampers, meals etc) I really hope that continues! And the single use menus lol.