Those wanting school open - are you not worried about your DC?

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Just that really. Do you not think it’s time to keep our kids home safe until this wave passes?

To all the other workers and parents - huge kudos to you all. Let's hope things either work in our favour, or this closure is short and sweet. I think we'll need our own support thread if this happens.

@PastMyBestBeforeDate

A quick google tells me that apparently as a lone parent you can claim income support until your child is five then you go over to job seekers allowance so clearly school is very much considered to be childcare by the powers that be!

The jobcentre definitely considers school as childcare!

People go to work while their children are at school. No one could have predicted this, no matter how much of a planner you are.

I really don't care enough about random elderly people to sacrifice my children anymore.

They’ll be plenty more people who don’t care about your children either.

Surely this isn’t about who is more important children or those that are vulnerable/elderly.

I have many children who are already coping with a parent who has cancer etc and whose mental health and education will definitely be impacted if that parent dies. And this is made worse by increased COVID transmission.

It amazes me how selfish some attitudes are. As long as your ok then everyone else should just get on with it as you don’t want your life to be affected in any way.

I really don't care enough about random elderly people to sacrifice my children anymore

How about random disabled people? Didnt dare to write that did you, you absolute moral vacuum.

@toocold54

I really don't care enough about random elderly people to sacrifice my children anymore.

They’ll be plenty more people who don’t care about your children either.

Surely this isn’t about who is more important children or those that are vulnerable/elderly.

I have many children who are already coping with a parent who has cancer etc and whose mental health and education will definitely be impacted if that parent dies. And this is made worse by increased COVID transmission.

It amazes me how selfish some attitudes are. As long as your ok then everyone else should just get on with it as you don’t want your life to be affected in any way.

Oh please

It's human nature to look after your own

It's not selfish, how very patronising

It's human nature to look after your own

Quite. We're designed to put our children first, that's how we keep them alive! My responsibility is firstly to my child, absolutely.

@gypsywater

I really don't care enough about random elderly people to sacrifice my children anymore

How about random disabled people? Didnt dare to write that did you, you absolute moral vacuum.

Nearly 90% of those who have died are 65+. The government has had to terrify us all and make us believe we're all in mortal danger in order to get us to comply. All this hysterical nonsense about keeping children safe...they are safe. As for teachers...how many are over the age of 65?

No worry at all - what I am worried about is the consequences of missing so much of their education already and the possibility of them missing more.

For those of you who either can't do your job from home or can't work from home because you need to focus on your children the government needs to put something else in place.

Schools won't stay open, their are going to be closures, either planned or due to lack of staff.

Financial support for families or flexibility by businesses, supported by the government would surely solve this?

It's human nature to look after your own

I look after my own every single day and I don’t share the same attitude.

The government has had to terrify us all and make us believe we're all in mortal danger in order to get us to comply.

Ahh yes I forgot there is no virus and it’s just a way to control us.
We’ve never had to close schools/shops etc before for a virus but it’s all an overreaction because it doesn’t exist.

Safe, what is your definition of safe?. My dd woke up with seemingly her throat closed up and unable to speak.
It was shocking.
The ambulance took the longest time, about 30 mins.
I could even hear the worry in the call person's voice.

They gave her some sort of steroids, and she seemed much better a few hours later.
It was peculiar.

She was safe because an ambulance did eventually get to us.

She's been safe in the past because she's been immediately admitted to a and e and put on nebs and steroids... How safe is she going to be, God forbid we need those services and we can't get her that help because we can't access the hospital or call an ambulance?

Ahh yes I forgot there is no virus and it’s just a way to control us.
We’ve never had to close schools/shops etc before for a virus but it’s all an overreaction because it doesn’t exist.*

At no point did formerbabe say this. She pointed out that those most at risk (ie the over 65s do not generally spend their time in schools).

Financial support for families or flexibility by businesses, supported by the government would surely solve this?

How are businesses, who are struggling to stay afloat and avoid as many redundancies as possible, supposed to support this?

The work needs to be done. Contracts honoured. Supporting staff who are forced to seriously limit their productivity is literally the last thing businesses need as they try to rebuild the economy.

@ByersRd it's not that simple. Financial support could be available to me but it doesn't change the fact that my job still needs doing. So that means my colleagues having to do shit tons of overtime trying to do my job alongside their own. My company can't be "flexible" when my job physically cannot be done from home.

@toocold54

The government has had to terrify us all and make us believe we're all in mortal danger in order to get us to comply.

Ahh yes I forgot there is no virus and it’s just a way to control us.
We’ve never had to close schools/shops etc before for a virus but it’s all an overreaction because it doesn’t exist.

Where on earth did I say that the virus didn't exist? .

I must admit to finding the narrative about schools being "dangerous" a bit confusing. Kids are in the lowest risk group and are that many teachers in the ecv category or still working past retirement age? The ones that are should be supported to WFH and develop decent online teaching packages and the non vulnerable teachers and kids (which is the vast majority) can carry on with face to face. As for the transmission risk to the wider community its about managing that by limiting contact between children and elderly relatives. If childcare is an issue then there should be support to cover this, grandparents should not routinely be providing care for grandchildren currently. That's far more of a risk than the school environment.

She pointed out that those most at risk (ie the over 65s do not generally spend their time in schools).

The government has had to terrify us all and make us believe we're all in mortal danger in order to get us to comply. All this hysterical nonsense about keeping children safe...they are safe.

See above.

The government is trying to terrify us to comply.
This is what many people believe that either there is no virus or it is made out to be worse to ‘control us’.

I'm aware the virus is real. I am not a conspiracy theorist.

@Waxonwaxoff0
I understand what you’re saying but What if you’re child had to self isolate for 2 weeks?
How would that be different from closing schools where the majority of kids are off compared to when kids are self isolating all at different times?

I would think a 2 week closure and then testing before they return would result in less children constantly being off due to self isolating.

I'm aware the virus is real. I am not a conspiracy theorist.

Ok that’s good to hear, so why do you think the government are trying to scare us then? Or trying to get us to comply?
What would their reason be? - genuine question.

It's very easy to say school staff aren't at risk going into school each day when you're not doing it yourself.

I'm under 65 and not CEV but still worried about getting it and my TA taking it home to her CEV husband or my colleague who is CV catching it.

Why do so many people try to tell school staff they shouldn't worry and they need to just get on with it as children 'need to be in school.'

I would think a 2 week closure and then testing before they return would result in less children constantly being off due to self isolating.

Agree with this.

@toocold54 my worry is that it wouldn't just be 2 weeks. If it was a 2 week delay and then I knew schools would definitely go back after those 2 weeks then yes I could cope with that. But I fear it wouldn't happen that way. Last time they closed in March and then didn't reopen until September. I don't trust this government not to mess things up again ending up with longer school closures again.