Those wanting school open - are you not worried about your DC?

[Hicksville21]

Just that really. Do you not think it’s time to keep our kids home safe until this wave passes?

@LegoAndLolDolls

Also the highest educated parents with the most money will come out this the best btw. Thanks to their education chances that these kids will loose. But as long as I'm ok right?

Who are you addressing? Schools have been working incredibly hard on catch up programmes for all pupils to try and mitigate the effects of the long lockdown. We have been concentrating on the basics and providing intensive interventions and boosters also. But ... You can't just abandon parts of the curriculum. that wouldn't be fair and would entrench inequality even further. And yes, the children of higher paid, highly educated parents ALWAYS do better in any education system. Was this a problem for you before or are you just thinking about it now?

No. Our school has handled it brilliantly. My child cried when they had to isolate as part of a bubble. My child has lost a lot of ground, is not motivated to learn well at home like many teenagers with the temptation of other things to do on a laptop/phone. Academic ground and mental health are massive factors for our young people who have already lost most of 2020 in one way or another,

@DuesToTheDirt

For the kids themselves - it was reported this week that a baby had just died in Scotland of Covid - the first child under 15 to do so. Not much of a risk.

I hadn't heard about this. Doesn't seem to be any reports on the general health of the baby. A very sad story but we don't know what else was going on.

No I’m not worried it’s the opposite I don’t want them at home again their mental health is suffering.
Yes I care about the teaching staff and feel they should be allowed to wear PPE if they wish to.
No one cared about me working in a care home and before people say you all have adequate PPE we didn’t. I’ve had Covid in April and October and I know it’s not a race to the bottom but I want my kids in school just as people need their vulnerable elderly to continue to be cared for.
I’m in “admin” and we don’t warrant full PPE.
Having said that lots of staff who wear full PPE have had it anyway.
I do feel school staff should be high on the priority vaccine list. Not that any of our care homes have seen a sniff of the vaccine.

BiBabbles

Your situation sounds desperate. It's very clear that your children should not be in a position where they have to care for you through Covid. You are far too relaxed about their position and increased vulnerability in my view. They are clearly in extreme circumstances where they would need to attend school through a lockdown. This is not typical.

Welcome to mumsnet as they say. Where everyone has the simple answer as long as it doesnt impact them

Teachers have been saying what needs to be done for months. Unfortunately, few people seem able to hear. Schools need additional measures to improve safety. This means throwing some money at schools and moving to blended learning in the current circumstances. Teachers would end up sick less often which would mean schools remain open. It really has never been complex. No one listening.

I am worried, not so much about him recovering from it, more the long term effects of having it. It is now known likely that MS has been triggered by a virus -EBV and I have have MS. Nobody knows about the long term effects from coronavirus and that surprises me that people don't seem to care.

@OppsUpsSide

A child feeling a bit lonely, worried, sad, anxious during a pandemic is no more of a mental health issue than a child having a sprain or cold is a physical health issue. It’s a bit of an issue, but it’s not something to get too hung up on.

So you would put your child in a situation that would definitely cause a sprain, fracture or permanent disability, a prolonged cold that could turn into a chest infection or pneumonia? Let me guess, for the greater good?

@Horseandgoat sorry I don’t know what you are meaning?

Doesn't seem to be any reports on the general health of the baby

Why would that matter? Or are you saying the lives of older people, the obese, diabetics, people with heart disease or cancer are unimportant?

Don’t bother to respond, that’s exactly what you’re saying.

Not in the slightest. There is no evidence to suggest that kids will be adversely affected by the virus. I don’t particularly want them to pass it on to someone vulnerable though. I certainly do want them in school and having as normal as possible existence

Nope haven’t rtft but yes I’m am worried about them
I’m worried about the disruption to their education and the long term effects of that.
I am worried about ds1 with Sen who should be in year ten and who has, finally after years of fighting and fuck all education, got into a school who could support him properly but yet can’t because of covid and it’s restrictions.
I am thankful that the other dc arent yet in the ‘important’ years of education or having their university years screwed over like dnephew and niece.

@DuesToTheDirt Can you provide a link to that sad death? I’m in Scotland and I follow the news here but haven’t read that yet,

I don't get this either tbh. My 4.5 year old will not be going back. Cases are 900 per 100k in my T4 area. We know fuck all about the long term effects of this disease, including the possibility of cardiac damage. Sorry but I'm not risking that. I understand some parents have no choice but I do and I'm not risking it.

I wfh and live in a small flat so it will be very difficult but the alternative is not acceptable to me.

No. I’m not particularly worried about the kids. The risk is minimal- touch wood.

Very scant details. It is not appropriate to speculate either way. Thoughts are with that poor family whatever the circumstances.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-55428497

@Isthatitnow

Doesn't seem to be any reports on the general health of the baby

Why would that matter? Or are you saying the lives of older people, the obese, diabetics, people with heart disease or cancer are unimportant?

Don’t bother to respond, that’s exactly what you’re saying.

No, that isn't exactly what they are saying. But as I said above it is not right to speculate about the health of the baby.

No. They are extremely low risk. I base my opinions on facts and figures.

I base my opinions on facts and figures.

Which facts and figures exist regarding the long term effects of covid?

Many parents in this country see schools as a free child minding service. So to answer your question, no they don’t care.

I despise comments like this. Our society is structured around kids going to school and many parents working during those daytime hours. There is NOTHING wrong with that and educators are not too good to fulfill their part in that scheme

Many people-facing professions have had to continue working throughout - doing the job they are paid for (including myself). I agree teachers should be prioritized for vaccination distribution after health professionals but I don't think schools, primary in particular, should close waiting for that to happen.

No I'm not worried

Has any child died of covid??? No

@FixItUpChappie

Many parents in this country see schools as a free child minding service. So to answer your question, no they don’t care.

I despise comments like this. Our society is structured around kids going to school and many parents working during those daytime hours. There is NOTHING wrong with that and educators are not too good to fulfill their part in that scheme

Many people-facing professions have had to continue working throughout - doing the job they are paid for (including myself). I agree teachers should be prioritized for vaccination distribution after health professionals but I don't think schools, primary in particular, should close waiting for that to happen.

Can you point to where an educator has said that they are too good to play their part? Teachers have, and will continue to work throughout this pandemic. In your 'people facing' job, are you expected to work in cramped, underventilated conditions with 30 others, without facemasks? All teachers are asking for is the right to be as safe as any other 'people facing' job.

@Remmy123

Has any child died of covid??? No

Yes.