The EU, WHO and Pfizer all seem less worried about the new strain than we are

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55404087

This makes me suspicious the new strain is being used as a means of trying to increase compliance by heightening fear, possibly unnecessarily.

The rise in cases is definitely cause for concern but I'm unconvinced the new strain is the Armageddon Hancock is making it out to be.

I suspect it is and it’s backfired in a major major way that was unexpected.

I’m not sure Hancock is all that stable. Give me a detached, serious Jeremy Hunt any day of the week.

Yep I’ve said the timing of it is a bit suspicious and was purely about Boris being able to backtrack on his Christmas plans and have the country comply. But he’s just gone and massively shot himself in the foot with countries now cutting us off. Twat

I didn't think I could get any more angry with our stupid government. And then...

Christ you lot don't half talk a load of cobblers.

Hey look what’s happening over here while I shaft you all royally with Brexit! Look kids, no hands!

It’s a total shit show. A disgrace, a shambles and will forever be our annus horribilus, we will pay for it forever.

But several countries have stopped all flights to and from the UK. I don't think they're in cahoots with Johnson and Hancock.

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Why would any government want to effectively cancel Christmas if they didn't have a really good reason? And wreck the economy?

@feelingverylazytoday

Christ you lot don't half talk a load of cobblers.

Agree. I’m sorry but it is so tiring and annoying listening to people finding a conspiracy or hidden agenda in everything. The massive increase in cases was all down to Boris? What a coincidence it happened at the time he needed it most. Next I’m gonna hear how the government have actually caused the mutation themselves. There are facts and figures and not mention sage scientists and other scientists talking about the mutant strain and how it can devastate us even more, but let’s ignore them and carry on finding more excuses for those who think it’s all a hoax anyway.

@feelingverylazytoday

Christ you lot don't half talk a load of cobblers.

Agree

It’s not down to Boris. Obviously. How would even be possible?!?

What is at his door is the inability to have decisive and unpopular leadership with strict rules, enforced.

He’s weak and political. The tories are scum.

More accurately Pfizer don't think their vaccine is impacted (and in many ways a faster spreading strain is good for vaccine take up and hence their profits) which is all they care about and EU probably realise that the new strain either originated in continental Europe or is already there is sufficient volumes that make a specific travel ban pointless.

so if the eu arent bothered why have 40 countries blocked us from coming in

@Circumlocutious

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Omg that's horrendous!

Where is that graph from?

@feelingverylazytoday

Christ you lot don't half talk a load of cobblers.

Have you read the linked article? It says that the EU don't agree with their member states actions banning all uk travel

@BewareTheBeardedFatMan
The EU has enough common sense to realise banning essential journeys and the transportation of food and drink with short shelf life is not a proportionate step to attempt to stop the importation of the mutated strain of virus (especially considering that they will understand that in all likelihood the strain is already all over the EU and may well have originated there).

@StatisticalSense

More accurately Pfizer don't think their vaccine is impacted (and in many ways a faster spreading strain is good for vaccine take up and hence their profits) which is all they care about and EU probably realise that the new strain either originated in continental Europe or is already there is sufficient volumes that make a specific travel ban pointless.

That's not what they said at all. They said they think it will still work. There will almost certainly be a large drop in efficacy.

I thought earlier on the European Commission was recommending that non essential travel not to happen at all, but essential travel to happen only upon receiving a negative covid test result?
As for WHO, I don’t think any countries are taking risks by listening to their advice anymore hence why so many countries have taken the matter into their hands and banned us!

[quote StatisticalSense]@BewareTheBeardedFatMan
The EU has enough common sense to realise banning essential journeys and the transportation of food and drink with short shelf life is not a proportionate step to attempt to stop the importation of the mutated strain of virus (especially considering that they will understand that in all likelihood the strain is already all over the EU and may well have originated there).[/quote]
Yes this

[quote StatisticalSense]@BewareTheBeardedFatMan
The EU has enough common sense to realise banning essential journeys and the transportation of food and drink with short shelf life is not a proportionate step to attempt to stop the importation of the mutated strain of virus (especially considering that they will understand that in all likelihood the strain is already all over the EU and may well have originated there).[/quote]
Yes - for sure. But why are all these countries taking this disproportionate action? Because our fuckwit government announced things were 'out of control' and the governments of these other countries need to appease their own electorates who are justifiably freaking out at a national government making a statement like this. My take, I am not in a good mood today.

@Mumof3andlovingit

I thought earlier on the European Commission was recommending that non essential travel not to happen at all, but essential travel to happen only upon receiving a negative covid test result? As for WHO, I don’t think any countries are taking risks by listening to their advice anymore hence why so many countries have taken the matter into their hands and banned us!

Well, that article says EU advise non-essential travel be discouraged but thinks that lorry drivers etc moving goods around be exempt from any requirement for testing.

I did say we should be concerned about the rise in cases but not all scientists and seemingly not the WHO consider the strain to be 'out of control'. It all just seems to fit with the government's long term strategy of wait too long, panic and drum up fear to get compliance.

@Circumlocutious

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This data is only meaningful if the same amount of people have been tested over the given time period.