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Do you agree with this or not?

56 replies

Meruem · 21/12/2020 14:29

Just went on FB and one of my Cornish contacts has shared this post from their local pub:

We have been watching the national and local news over the last 24-48 hours and in light of the recent events we wanted to emphasise to all our current processes.
We are very fortunate to be trading in a Tier 1 area, and we do appreciate that Cornwall is in a unique situation compared to much of the rest of the UK.
There does seem to have been a large number of visitors converging on Cornwall in the last couple of days which is creating concern for our local customers.
The government advice for people in tier 3 and 4 is to travel only for work, education, caring responsibilities, moving home, visiting others in your support bubble and for medical treatment.
Given this situation, we are asking customers which tier they are visiting from. We regret that we will not be booking tables for persons visiting from Tier 3 and 4.
We are not intending to cause offence or division. Hospitality is in a tricky situation currently and many businesses are having to make decisions that they feel is right to protect their local population including their staff.
Considering the fact that those living in Tier 3 and 4 areas will only be in Cornwall for one of the 'essential' reasons listed above, we do not anticipate coming across anyone from those Tiers. However, we will be asking when making your booking or when you arrive into the pub, so please be aware and considerate of this. We will ask for proof of address if we do not know you in the form of a driving licence etc.

On the one hand I understand their concerns but it’s so divisive. I mean someone might be staying with a relative locally, has been their carer or whatever for weeks, but their “home” address is tier 4. So they aren’t allowed in. Just curious what other people think of this.

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Xerochrysum · 21/12/2020 14:59

I totally agree with it. One case can cause spread and end up place being closed. And if they have many visitors, they may discourage regular local people coming potentially more damaging to decline one off customer from other areas. If the area has low case, they have a right to keep it that way.

Thatwentbadly · 21/12/2020 14:59

Yes I agree. I’m in tier 3 btw.

It’s the government guidelines and they need to protect their business and their customers.

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Meruem · 21/12/2020 15:01

and as far as I can see the only people who would have a problem with it are those who were hoping to break the law

Not necessarily. There are people who may have been there for weeks/months, before tier 4 even existed, but their home address is not Cornwall. You have to abide by your home tier rules if you’ve come from that tier but not if you were already gone when it came in.

I mean I’m not going to Cornwall anytime soon so it makes no difference to me personally. I just still feel a bit uncomfortable with it.

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DirtyDancing · 21/12/2020 15:02

In T4 and I do not in anyway blame a T1 pub for not wanting me in their premises. Good on them! If more people took this initiative we would not be in as much of a mess as this. People should be travelling from T4 to T1 anyway & spreading this new, highly transmissions strain.

Not that I am going anywhere, I’m stuck at home with the kids lolling on the sofa..

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Meruem · 21/12/2020 15:05

I’m not talking about me personally. I didn’t go to pubs here when they were open so I wouldn’t bother there either. Just generally I find it a bit of a worrying trend. People post on here all the time about things they fear are here to stay. I guess that’s my thing. Now it’s no tier 3 & 4. How long before it’s no one that isn’t Cornish (or whatever area has implemented things like this). It’s the promotion of fear and hostility.

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Xerochrysum · 21/12/2020 15:10

If the person was already in T1 area weeks/months with T3/4 address and didn't go to this pub, then they don't need to go there now. And if that person was already regular at that pub, the people would know them already?

SkySports · 21/12/2020 15:14

I agree. We are tier 2 not as low as Cornwall but I wouldn't want swarms from the SE spreading it around either.

SkySports · 21/12/2020 15:16

@DirtyDancing

In T4 and I do not in anyway blame a T1 pub for not wanting me in their premises. Good on them! If more people took this initiative we would not be in as much of a mess as this. People should be travelling from T4 to T1 anyway & spreading this new, highly transmissions strain.

Not that I am going anywhere, I’m stuck at home with the kids lolling on the sofa..

Indeed.
It's a shame that others in Tier 4 are not as sensible as you. The idiots spreading it around the country have their own selves to blame. I feel for people like you doing your best when surrounded by idiots/selfish etc
AwaAnBileYerHeid · 21/12/2020 15:19

Good on them, 100% agree with this.

MrsR87 · 21/12/2020 15:22

I live in a tier three area and I completely agree with the pub. Surely, they are hush implementing a protocol to ensure the government rules are followed. Whilst I personally wouldn’t travel out of my tier unless absolutely necessary (eg an emergency), I can think of plenty that would, and that’s how it spreads and areas end up in the next tier. Tbh, I think they are being responsible.

MrsR87 · 21/12/2020 15:23

Just not hush.

Trying to tour with one hand whilst I have a sleeping baby in the other arm!

ILoveAnOwl · 21/12/2020 15:24

We're in tier 1 too. A local restaurant has done the same. I've only heard positive reactions from people locally.

Thehogfatherstolemycurry · 21/12/2020 15:33

I'm in Bolton this was done by a couple of pubs in neighbouring towns when we were topping the covid leader board, I kind of agree with it because people were trying to escape for a night in the pub.
However on the other hand my dh has to regularly travel for work (law enforcement) and needs to eat somewhere. Recently he's had to live off supermarket sandwiches and crisps when he's away. Not ideal when it's a regular thing but won't kill him.

MarshaBradyo · 21/12/2020 15:35

Fine by me

Flowerpot345 · 21/12/2020 15:37

I am in agreement with with them.

ChristmasinJune · 21/12/2020 15:41

I completely agree with this actually. I'm a bit sick of people spreading this because they don't fancy following the rules. I'm in a tier 2 area and the local papers are full of "visitors" coming to our area from higher tier areas for their Christmas night out.
I understand this because this Christmas is shit for everybody but honestly, we need to work together and follow the rules.

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Meruem · 21/12/2020 15:45

Yes I do agree we all need to be following the rules and people aren’t. Maybe I feel sad it’s even necessary for places to be bringing in these types of things. I went from reading this morning about the UK being banned from entering dozens of countries now. Then to FB to see we’re banned from more places! It might just all be starting to get to me now!

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RaininSummer · 21/12/2020 15:48

It seems a lovely thing to do to keep the pub safe for the locals tbh. If someone is a local regular and has a long term visitor then the pub probably already know this as we are talking about little Cornish village pubs here.

WitsEnding · 21/12/2020 15:49

100% agree with this. Tier 3 and 4 shouldn’t be coming to Cornwall for non-essential reasons ... if you’ve been a family support for months the locals will know you, surely? I wouldn’t disagree with exemptions for essential travellers, but the landlord has discretion.

It would be very easy for me to nip across the Tamar from Tier2, I haven’t been to so much as a cafe there this year. Many of the Cornwall-side pubs have been making it very clear since lockdown that they won’t serve anyone from Tier 2 Plymouth, so it’s completely unsurprising that they won’t serve Tier 3 or 4.

Brighterthansunflowers · 21/12/2020 15:57

I think sadly this is needed. The pub is probably desperate for Cornwall to keep its low tier so they can stay open, not surprising they don’t want to risk that by having tourists from higher tiers.

The last nine months have proved how many people bend or ignore rules that don’t suit them, regardless of it putting other people at risk. Not just at risk from covid but risk of their business being fined or having to close.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 21/12/2020 16:02

@Char2015

100% agree with it. Shows commitment to operating in the most safest way they possibly can.
Me too.

Given the allowed reasons only for travel, you wouldn’t think many would even be trying to book tables.

FOJN · 21/12/2020 16:13

I don't understand why this is considered divisive. It seems very responsible to me. I'm in tier 2 and wouldn't dream of trying to go for a meal in a Cornish pub.

Do we want the whole country in tier 4? You may not enjoy the benefits of tier 1 but surely we don't begrudge other people living less restricted lives.

OverTheRainbow88 · 21/12/2020 16:17

I agree, and I’m saying that as someone’s who’s been in tier 3 for a while.

Why cripple all businesses when some could be saved?

Lucindainthesky · 21/12/2020 16:31

In complete agreement. You are supposed to act as you are in your home tier, so they shouldn't be in the pub anyway.

Stellaris22 · 21/12/2020 16:37

I understand wanting to do this, employers have a duty to protect their staff.

But too many people have second homes which they could have flocked to which can be used as proof of address. Unless they are are asking for primary address then it's pointless.

Just another: we don't care if money comes from wealthy people that could be spreading covid.