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Will schools close in January/February?

91 replies

BaileyBoos · 18/12/2020 16:29

Just that really.

Given the huge rise in cases and the inevitable,
upcoming January fiasco, do we think schools will close? Primary and secondary, or just secondary?

Purely speculative I know, but the recent lockdowns haven’t been hugely effective, so I can’t help but wonder.

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Jrobhatch29 · 18/12/2020 16:50

I think there might be changes to secondary e g. Rota but they won't close.
I don't think there's a chance primary will

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/12/2020 16:50

The tone of the email was that the head was pissed off to be emailing so late and had not been notified before he read about this news in the press
It’s been the same all the way through since March. Schools and SLTs only found out about all the announcements re schools at the same time as the general public.

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 16:51

No

KnowingMeKnowingYule · 18/12/2020 16:51

@PurpleDaisies it's easy to say it's been a priority but in reality there has been no support or wherewithal to make it a priority.

LegoPandemic · 18/12/2020 16:52

I hope not. DS year 4 needs to be at school. He was so sad during lockdown and has thrived this term (only 2 days off all term!)

starrynight19 · 18/12/2020 16:53

Yes also had two very pissed off emails from my children’s headteachers.
I honestly think this testing decision might be the straw that breaks the camels back in secondary schools. The unions are all coming together on this one.

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 16:53

There’s no way primary will close again like first lock down.

Secondary I doubt it but possibly remote circuit breakers for non exam years. But still think it will only be first week doing this.

PurpleDaisies · 18/12/2020 16:53

[quote KnowingMeKnowingYule]@PurpleDaisies it's easy to say it's been a priority but in reality there has been no support or wherewithal to make it a priority.[/quote]
Yes, that’s what I meant. It might not have across in my previous post.

The government is clearly committed to demanding schools stay open with no proper support for them at all. Schools have been treated appallingly.

WanderingMilly · 18/12/2020 17:04

Yes, schools should close, primary as well as secondary.
Up until now Tiers and other restrictions have only been partially effective, and in some places (try Leicester) not really at all. Why? Because schools are still open.

Don't tell me it's because people "aren't following the rules"....in fact, most people are. The numbers who are partying or drinking with 100 mates are actually few and far between which is why they make the headlines when they do this.

To be honest, I am utterly sick and tired of endless newspaper headlines/BBC news saying we aren't following rules because numbers have gone up again when what they aren't telling us is it's because schools are open.

Schools should stay shut after the holidays. Especially primaries where small children are often asymptomatic, or else look like they have a bit of a cold, yet they are spreading the virus into their, and other, families who then have family members who are more ill.

I guess I am biased but I work in a school (not teaching) - during the last week I have seen staff not distancing, desk-sharing where equipment is not sanitised in-between, lack of masks and a number of end-of-term activities where lots of small children crammed together, singing carols or decorating for Christmas etc. There was even the end-of-term dance, dozens and dozens of 8, 9, 10 year olds crushed in a small airless room, dancing, shouting, no distancing or ventilation for 2 hours while they passed on possible COVID to everyone before breaking up for the holidays. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

Our pubs and hospitality venues can't even serve a socially distanced pint but kids can be crammed together without a thought? This is all wrong on every level.

But no-one wants to shut schools because everyone is saying the kids' education will suffer, which is really parent-speak for 'we want them to be in school so that we can get on with our lives/work' or whatever.

And then people ask why the rates aren't going down....

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2020 17:05

People are far too willing to throw dc education down the drain. Ridiculous.

onedayinthefuture · 18/12/2020 17:05

I mean they could close all schools entirely in January and see what happens with the infection rate but the time would absolutely have to be added back on in the summer holidays, push back exams. It would bugger up working parents again though.

starrynight19 · 18/12/2020 17:05

The government is clearly committed to demanding schools stay open with no proper support for them at all. Schools have been treated appallingly.

And that’s why schools infection rates are rising at such a rapid rate. You can’t just open them without doing everything possible to try and make them safer and expect them to stay open. They may stay open in name but it’s evident that cases will continue to rise if we do the same as we have done this term.

KnowingMeKnowingYule · 18/12/2020 17:11

The problem is that it's the big three:healthcare, economy and education. This pandemic means at some points different things have to 'give' to support another of the 'big three'. So, hospitality etc (economy) suffers in lockdown 2 to prop up maintaining education, healthcare has to be maintained throughout... education and economy had to suffer in lockdown 1 for healthcare. It's a balancing act isn't it and healthcare trumps everything really as we can't have an overwhelmed healthcare system as that would be catastrophic.

Turtleshelly · 18/12/2020 17:30

A blind eye was turned against all schools. We were gaslighted to believe kids didn’t catch or transmit it. Now they’re admitting a problem in secondaries but a blind eye is still being turned to primary schools. Unlike other countries , we only test children based on growth up symptoms so many cases are missed. So the positivity rate is the most reliable way of seeing if age groups have it. This week’s positivity results are damning. Look at age 2 to year 6 as well as secondaries.

Will schools close in January/February?
Turtleshelly · 18/12/2020 17:32

The government should invest money in making schools safer and allowing distancing etc as other countries have done. Their way of “putting education first” is resulting in chaos for many students and an un level playing field. Transmission needs to be mitigated against ti keep them safe, give them a routine even if it’s different to normal and keep them learning.

Sennetti · 18/12/2020 17:32

the kids will pay for the adults stupidity.schools are bound to close after the fiasco that is christmas

and i think this time primary schools will be affected in some way too, even if just because lack of staff

Nellle · 18/12/2020 17:34

My worry is that the introduction of weekly mass testing of school staff could highlight huge numbers of asymptomatic teachers and that could force schools to close.

I'm amazed the government are introducing it for that reason.

Jenasaurus · 18/12/2020 17:36

nursery schools are having a rise in numbers too. Maybe a couple of weeks closure would do the trick.

ArosAdraDrosDolig · 18/12/2020 17:46

Our local schools have all switched to online learning til 11th Jan, including primary (Wales)

CKBJ · 18/12/2020 17:49

Schools will trundle on like they’ve done this term. Some will be badly affected, others not so. The testing will be fraught with problems just like everything else this government attempts to put in place at haste. Infection rate will rocket again (it is already), we will bounce into another lockdown but schools kept opened. Businesses will fail, livelihoods will be lost but no need to worry as children will be “happiest at school”.

Barbie222 · 18/12/2020 17:51

I think it's extremely unlikely that primary schools will be directed to close.

I think it's very likely they will have to close for a lot of people, lots of the time, because of ill staff.

My worry is that the introduction of weekly mass testing of school staff could highlight huge numbers of asymptomatic teachers and that could force schools to close.

Yes, exactly - there will only be more disruption all around.

KnowingMeKnowingYule · 18/12/2020 17:51

@CKBJ

Schools will trundle on like they’ve done this term. Some will be badly affected, others not so. The testing will be fraught with problems just like everything else this government attempts to put in place at haste. Infection rate will rocket again (it is already), we will bounce into another lockdown but schools kept opened. Businesses will fail, livelihoods will be lost but no need to worry as children will be “happiest at school”.
Yup. Although possibly not the ones cheering as they ran out of school yesterday!
CKBJ · 18/12/2020 17:52

@Nellle wouldn’t worry about that, tests they will be using are only 50% effective at best and care homes haven’t even received their allocated amount for Christmas visits yet, can’t see schools receiving many! More like a political stunt to look like they are doing something when faced with crude data showing infection rate so high in children.

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/12/2020 17:55

Primary schools and cockroaches will be the last remaining signs of life in the post covid world.

KnowingMeKnowingYule · 18/12/2020 18:01

@RuleWithAWoodenFoot

Primary schools and cockroaches will be the last remaining signs of life in the post covid world.
😂 Gave me a hollow laugh.