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New strain. How worried should we be?

16 replies

TotallyandutterlyMULLED · 16/12/2020 09:46

Hi,

I know this will have obviously been discussed before on here, but the concern seems to have ramped up a bit today....or is it just me?

Thoughts?

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nanoparticle · 16/12/2020 10:50

I am also very worried about this as it is more contagious but my main worry is if it will affect the vaccines. Will just have to wait for any updates

AlecTrevelyan006 · 16/12/2020 11:01

Not worried at all

nanoparticle · 16/12/2020 11:03

well there are 17 mutations on the spike protein so yeah it is very concerning regarding the vaccines

AcornAutumn · 16/12/2020 11:04

Do you worry about the flu mutating each year?

bathsh3ba · 16/12/2020 11:04

Not an epidemiologist, but I am sure I read somewhere that viruses more commonly mutate to be less deadly than more deadly. So I'm hoping that's true, and this virus strain might be more infective but less serious.

PrivateD00r · 16/12/2020 11:06

I am definitely concerned as to whether the vaccine will still be effective for this strain, and also about how fast spreading this new variant is. However we will just have to wait and see I guess.

QueenStromba · 16/12/2020 11:12

The apparent faster spreading could be entirely random given that most spread is by super spreaders - a new variant just needs to get lucky a few times and it's everywhere. I'll be amazed though if it doesn't affect vaccine efficacy though.

PrivateD00r · 16/12/2020 11:14

@QueenStromba

The apparent faster spreading could be entirely random given that most spread is by super spreaders - a new variant just needs to get lucky a few times and it's everywhere. I'll be amazed though if it doesn't affect vaccine efficacy though.
I was hoping you would comment, your posts are always very helpful
GabriellaMontez · 16/12/2020 11:42

@nanoparticle

I am also very worried about this as it is more contagious but my main worry is if it will affect the vaccines. Will just have to wait for any updates
How do you know it's more contagious?
Earlgrey666 · 16/12/2020 11:48

If it does evade the vaccines, then what will happen? I am very worried about this, surely it means no end to the pandemic as the mutations will keep happening?

BlueBlancmange · 16/12/2020 11:51

@QueenStromba

The apparent faster spreading could be entirely random given that most spread is by super spreaders - a new variant just needs to get lucky a few times and it's everywhere. I'll be amazed though if it doesn't affect vaccine efficacy though.
From what I have heard they think it is unlikely to affect vaccine efficacy.
Whenismumhome · 16/12/2020 11:55

I’m so done with it all. I just want this pandemic to fuck off

TotallyandutterlyMULLED · 16/12/2020 12:02

I hear that it's very unlikely to effect the vaccine, but then if it's the spike protein which has changed, become stickier potentially, therefore more contagious, why are scientists saying it's unlikely cause issues if the vaccine was created from the spike proteins? Or am I being really stupid?...

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QueenStromba · 16/12/2020 12:44

@TotallyandutterlyMULLED

I hear that it's very unlikely to effect the vaccine, but then if it's the spike protein which has changed, become stickier potentially, therefore more contagious, why are scientists saying it's unlikely cause issues if the vaccine was created from the spike proteins? Or am I being really stupid?...
Can you point me to where a scientist has said that? The closest I've seen is someone saying "there's no evidence that" which is scientist speak for we don't know. Or maybe you're talking about what Whitty said at the press conference which was perhaps technically true but effectively an outright lie (he said something about there being no selective pressure on the virus from the vaccine while omitting the fact that the selective pressure for the virus to evade the immune response from a previous infection has the effect of also making any vaccine based on that virus less effective).
GabriellaMontez · 16/12/2020 12:58

therefore more contagious

Who said this?

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 16/12/2020 13:12

Not worried at all

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