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Food for Thought

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Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 21:44

Food for thought 💭

As I walk into the supermarket with 30 other people at the same time, I think about bars and restaurants which allows parties of 6 total, and meticulously spaced out reservations by 10 minutes ensuring guests that aren’t from the same party do not arrive at the same time.

As I take a trolley, that has had just the handle sanitized, I think about my bars and restaurants which invested thousands of pounds (so far) on ink and paper to print disposable menus to ensure no two guests touch the same menu.

As I walk over to the produce aisle with 15-20 other people around me, I’m reminded of the strict “no mingling / no walking around the bars and restaurants other than to use the washroom or enter/exit policy we have in place and the 6ft distance between tables which has cut our capacity in half.

As I watch the woman next to me pick up apples with her hand, check them over closely and then put them back on the open pile and repeats this until she finds the perfect apples — the same thing that all other people that day who want an apple will then do and then put those apples into their mouths, I think about the two step sanitation process in place at bars and restaurants for all cutlery and dishes and glassware in between every single guest, and the sanitation of every surface guests touch (tables, chairs, salt and pepper shakers, etc).

As I watch the man in the next aisle over ignore or not notice the directional arrows on the ground, I think about bars and restaurants and the constant redirecting our staff does of guests - by locking certain doors, blocking areas off and the work my team does to simply not allow guests to walk where they are not supposed to.

As I walk down the cereal aisle, I see a person with their mask off so they can talk on the phone, and I’m reminded of bars and restaurants where our masking policy has lost us so much business as we will not allow guests who do not cover their nose mouth and chin while not sitting at their designated seat as per the by-law in place for our region.

As I check out at the cashier, I use my debit card to pay and see the plastic film covering the terminal. It was not sanitized after the person before me used it. I am reminded of the sanitizer used on the debit terminals in between each guest every time at bars and restaurants.

As I stand at a crowded exit trying to leave, I’m reminded of the detailed contact tracing in place at bars and restaurants that records the name, phone number, table number, arrival and exit time, as well as the server and section the guest sat in that is in place at bars and restaurants— not one of those pieces of information was taken from any customer here.

As I get into my car and watch all these people leave the store, I wonder which person will visit my establishment after contracting covid at this supermarket and I wonder why on earth my restaurant will be blamed as the source.

Bars and Restaurants are being targeted as the “source” of Covid infections because we are one of the ONLY industries required to provide contact tracing. Someone with Covid could have gone to ASDA, TESCO, B&Q, RETAIL SHOPS & any other shop/ supermarket etc yet it’s the bars and restaurants that took their detailed information that will be forced to close and deemed responsible for the infection.

You want to blame restaurants for the spread after thousands of pounds investing in equipment, training and stricter policies than ANYWHERE ELSE?!"

#savehospitality

(Copied from a fellow restaurant owner)

OP posts:
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 21:46

You want to blame restaurants for the spread after thousands of pounds investing in equipment, training and stricter policies than ANYWHERE ELSE?!"

Im not blaming them

I don’t know anyone personally who is

Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 21:50

Well clearly someone is, or else I wouldn't have to shut on Wednesday and loose any chance of recouping some lost revenue.....

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Rosehip10 · 14/12/2020 21:52

Food shops are essential - pubs and bars are not.

Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 22:04

@Rosehip10

Food shops are essential - pubs and bars are not.
Spectacularly missing the point
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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 22:04

@Thunderpunt

Well clearly someone is, or else I wouldn't have to shut on Wednesday and loose any chance of recouping some lost revenue.....
Where are you though

I used to go relatively regularly to restaurants and pubs with friends and family and now I can’t

Thats not to say I’m blaming restaurants...i just can’t get in there

Dd is the same was always out with friends but she can’t now either...she’s fucking desperate to hit the pubs

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 22:05

Was in local cafes at least 4 times a week, probably more

Thats not happening either

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 22:09

Oh wait

You’re in london...I’m a bit slow tonight

Was supposed to be there on Sunday for dinner and the theatre

Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 22:10

Tier 3

All retail can stay open.... not just essential

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Furrybootsyecomfy · 14/12/2020 22:14

Pubs and bars are essential to the people who make their living there.

I’m so sorry OP. The hospitality industry really has borne the brunt of restrictions for what doesn’t seem like a huge amount of benefit. I hope some proper support is available to you.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 14/12/2020 22:16

So sorry thunder

TransplantedScouser · 14/12/2020 22:24

Pubs and bars have born the brunt to hide the fa t schools are a massive vector

When they have to close the schools there would be massive out cry if people can go out for a pint.

It’s all about image management

BrieAndChilli · 14/12/2020 22:26

Unfortunately there is no option to just close supermarkets. There aren’t enough delivery drivers and trucks and time in the day to deliver to everyone in the country - hence that’s why supermarkets are essential and need to stay open.
I’ve never seen 20 people entering a supermarket at the same time?!! Ours has a traffic light system, essentially one in and one out and doors lock if light is on red. Our other local supermarket has just got special silver anti bac handles out on all thier trolleys.
It’s not about blaming resturants but about minimising the amount of places people can go to minimise the chances of spreading covid. No-one needs to go out for a meal but people do need to go and get food/medicine etc. It’s shit, I’m not denying that but you can’t really compare resturants and supermarkets as the same service/need. It’s like saying why are beauticians and hairdressers and gyms having to close but dentists and doctors are allowed to stay open!!

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Furrybootsyecomfy · 14/12/2020 22:34

@BrieAndChilli
I get that, we all do, but that isn’t going to change how OP feels about her hard won business potentially going down the tubes. Plus she makes some valid points about behaviour in supermarkets etc that would be deemed unacceptable in restaurants. Every restaurant (or bar, when I could) I’ve visited has been scrupulous.

Katie517 · 14/12/2020 22:50

People who say things like pubs and restaurants aren’t essential have no understanding of just how essential they are to their owners and the people who work in them and not to mention the people who enjoy to visit them. It’s so rude how we suddenly deem these places as non essential as a way to brush over the fact that they have very little to do with the spread of covid and owners have worked tirelessly and jumped through hoops to become Covid secure! Only to become the scapegoat when we all know it’s spreading in schools, hospitals and care homes. Hopefully all those people who deem them so pointless and not essential will stay away when they all reopen... it’s so easy to point the finger and dismiss whole industries while you sit at home in your secure job.

Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 22:51

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Thunderpunt · 14/12/2020 22:54

@BrieAndChilli

Unfortunately there is no option to just close supermarkets. There aren’t enough delivery drivers and trucks and time in the day to deliver to everyone in the country - hence that’s why supermarkets are essential and need to stay open. I’ve never seen 20 people entering a supermarket at the same time?!! Ours has a traffic light system, essentially one in and one out and doors lock if light is on red. Our other local supermarket has just got special silver anti bac handles out on all thier trolleys. It’s not about blaming resturants but about minimising the amount of places people can go to minimise the chances of spreading covid. No-one needs to go out for a meal but people do need to go and get food/medicine etc. It’s shit, I’m not denying that but you can’t really compare resturants and supermarkets as the same service/need. It’s like saying why are beauticians and hairdressers and gyms having to close but dentists and doctors are allowed to stay open!!
And again I will say.... it's not just non essential retail staying open....literally everything is staying open, hairdressers, leisure Centres, all retail outlets..... just close hospitality - and we are one of the only industries that actually does track and trace, how many QR codes have you scanned before going into the carpet shop/the newsagents/the ladies boutique....?
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Kab30 · 14/12/2020 23:02

And so say all of us .....been kicked under a bus here in Wales too xx

quarentini · 14/12/2020 23:07

@Thunderpunt as a chef who has been and still is affected by the tiers. I won't wind my neck in.
Nothing the government has done after the first 16 weeks of lockdown 1 has made any sense.

BellaintheWychElm · 14/12/2020 23:08

supermarket has just got special silver anti bac handles out on all thier trolleys
Thats useful for a virus

LastTrainEast · 14/12/2020 23:30

@Katie517

People who say things like pubs and restaurants aren’t essential have no understanding of just how essential they are to their owners and the people who work in them and not to mention the people who enjoy to visit them. It’s so rude how we suddenly deem these places as non essential as a way to brush over the fact that they have very little to do with the spread of covid and owners have worked tirelessly and jumped through hoops to become Covid secure! Only to become the scapegoat when we all know it’s spreading in schools, hospitals and care homes. Hopefully all those people who deem them so pointless and not essential will stay away when they all reopen... it’s so easy to point the finger and dismiss whole industries while you sit at home in your secure job.
No we do understand, but we don't care. Because people need to buy food but they don't need to sit in a restaurant. They need to go to school, but they they don't need to sit in a restaurant. They need to go to hospital l, but they they don't need to sit in a restaurant.

The idea that some people still don't understand that is hard to believe, but we see it every day don't we.

The most ridiculous part of what you said was "Hopefully all those people who deem them so pointless and not essential will stay away when they all reopen." but I think you will get your wish.

Extrapepperoni · 14/12/2020 23:33

I get reducing social contacts to stop the spread but why can't the rule simply be no going to hospitality with anyone not from your household? Solidarity @Thunderpunt, this government is making it up as they go along with no justification for destroying the source of income for hundreds of thousands of people.

Rosehip10 · 14/12/2020 23:38

@Extrapepperoni As hospitality has complained, probably correctly, that is not up to them to enforce the rules and question people, hence "from same household" is just taken on the customer's word.

Furrybootsyecomfy · 14/12/2020 23:41

Would making restaurant visits “household only” not negate any value they have for single person households having somewhere to meet people during winter?

Furrybootsyecomfy · 14/12/2020 23:47

Reading some of the posts on this thread, it’s almost as if poverty, poor mental health, and isolation have never been known to kill anybody, ever.

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