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Cummings may not be as bad as we thought...

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wondersun · 14/12/2020 15:29

Well I thought anyway. I blamed him for so much. An interesting read so thought I’d put it here.

archive.vn/UWnAm

One thing that hasn’t changed me - gutted we didn’t aim for zero covid. I know we’d never have achieved it but that’s not what aiming for it is about.

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UndertheCedartree · 14/12/2020 18:22

The thing that stung about Cummings was he felt he needed childcare while he was ill much more than any of us! When I had Covid (and I was hospitalised) I had to get on with it and look after my DC. I have Long Covid and post-Covid fatigue now and of course I still have to get on with it. I cry most days with the sheer utter exhaustion and because of constantly feeling unwell, nauseous and dizzy. I'm focusing on last day of school on Thursday so I can rest up for the holidays because I feel like I can't cope for much longer

herecomesthsun · 14/12/2020 20:19

When my kids were little we used to have to keep stopping for pees. In fact, when the Cumings family went the relatively short drive to Barnard Castle, they stopped with their lad for a pee and a play.

Hell, I'd need to stop for a pee and I'm not 4.

And the best advice is to take a break every couple of hours when you're driving.

Very risky to everyone else to drive all the way from London to Durham knowing you could transmit the disease if you had to stop for any reason.

It seemed very wrong that it was fine to go driving all over the country and then for a nice birthday outing to Barnard Castle, when people were dying alone because of the very strict policies around managing possible infection to others from people with covid.

It was a terrible example and then people thought, why should they rein in their lives , when he could behave however he liked with impunity.

If they were well enough to travel all that way, they were well enough to look after their kids for a few days.

If they were that unwell, then how much risk was there to other people with that long journey?

Now that you pitch up arguing his case, it all comes back...

ilikebooksandplants · 16/12/2020 23:29

It’s easier to close borders in NZ than it is in the UK though, and it certainly was in March. Heathrow is a major European hub/stop off/change over airports and one of the busiest airports in the world. Freedom of movement across Europe would also be a factor needed to consider when closing borders.
If you fly to NZ then you are pretty much ONLY going to NZ. I don’t think the two are comparable.

I would say closing borders in countries like NZ and Australia has not been without an absolutely hideous cost to people’s lives and health (mental and physical health). I know someone from NZ who watched his father’s life support turned off over zoom. There will have been many people in similar, dreadful positions. Whether that has been worth it to keep the country covid free is for you to make your own judgement but I don’t think the dreadful restrictions on people’s lives should be celebrated - it has not been without significant pain.

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