After Covid, will we still be so worried about climate change?

[Aprilrainbow]

I am not saying that climate change is not real or is not an issue but having confronted a very immediate threat to our selves & our loved ones will climate change no longer be seen as the end of the world?

You do realise that climate change makes pandemics much more likely?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/longhaul/4104940-After-Covid-would-you-give-up-flying-to-combat-climate-change?msgid=102564225#102564225

@MasterGland yes, absolutely. The two things are entirely linked. Thank you for your comment.
I'm upset by some of the more recent comments on this thread, by people who don't seem concerned about climate change. It really makes me feel sad & worried for future generations, and for all the species becoming extinct etc. I realise that sounds horrendously judgemental, and I don't mean it to. I just feel sad and worried

Climate change and habitat degradation directly links to the pandemic. When you deforest, humans encroach into areas where there should be a divide between humans and nature. If we don’t take climate change seriously, pandemics will become more frequent. Scientists have been warning about this for a while.

@MasterGland

You do realise that climate change makes pandemics much more likely?

No it doesn’t. It’s globalisation and overpopulation that makes pandemics more likely. Not how warm or cold the planet is or where the sea happens to move to.

[quote WanderingFruitWonderer]**@MasterGland yes, absolutely. The two things are entirely linked. Thank you for your comment.
I'm upset by some of the more recent comments on this thread, by people who don't seem concerned about climate change. It really makes me feel sad & worried for future generations, and for all the species becoming extinct etc. I realise that sounds horrendously judgemental, and I don't mean it to. I just feel sad and worried [/quote]
Don't be sad & worried, after Covid things will be better, it is human nature to look for things to be concerned about.

April, perhaps nobody reading this will be seriously personally impacted in the next couple of decades, you're probably right. But should we not worry on behalf of those who are impacted now? That's what I struggle so much with in discussions like these. I don't know them personally, but all the same, there are women like me who are struggling to grow crops to feed their children because of a heating planet, women like me who are having to up sticks and join the ever increasing numbers of displaced people leaving homes behind as oceans encroach or groundwater is salinating, children like mine whose lives have none of the comforts and security my kids' lives do, on account of the climate emergency. I really struggle to see how we can 'be OK' when so many patently are not (and they probably have carbon footprints which are a fraction of mine, having done precious little to contribute to the situation, yet suffering the worst consequences).

Climate change and covid are linked. Deforestation has brought us to get far closer than we should be to viruses living in the natural world. Air travel has enabled it to whip around the world.

Climate change is so much more dangerous, longer lasting, further reaching and harder to fight.
It is what keeps me up at night, not covid.

I wouldn't say I'm worried about climate change as such. I'm aware of it and have made some changes. I don't have the energy to actually worry.

I have more children than the replacement level and I do know that that is the worst thing I could have done for the planet. Having fewer kids was a sacrifice I was unwilling to make - in fact climate change wasn't even on the long list of considerations. I think that's the bottom line - individuals will only do what suits them. It's easier to "give up driving" with plentiful public transport or become vegan if you're not keen on animal products / have a dairy allergy already / have plenty of time, imagination and money for alternatives.

@Figmentofmyimagination

Climate change and covid are linked. Deforestation has brought us to get far closer than we should be to viruses living in the natural world. Air travel has enabled it to whip around the world.

No they are not linked. Covid is a virus that mutated from a virus which originated in bats. And the Wuhan lab situated less than 100m from the ground zero Wuhan market, specialised in going to remote areas and crawling in caves to collect bat viruses.

Climate change and deforestation has fuck all to do with why humans decided to crawl around in bat caves, collect bat viruses, then study them in a lab.

But a WHO team of international scientists are currently in Wuhan to trace out exactly how Covid came about. They already know it was a natural mutation of the virus, not lab created. So it’s not a bio weapon.

Not a bio weapon but possibly a lab accident as Australia suspects.