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vaccine immunity lasts 90 days?

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Earlgrey666 · 07/12/2020 22:21

I'm wondering if someone knowledgeable can help. I was so excited about the vaccine and thought it was the light at the end of the tunnel and gave me hope that a normal life might be likely at some point in the next few months/year.

However the news over the weekend said that although currently unknown the estimated immunity after having the vaccine lasts around 90 days. Have I got this right? If so, how is this going to help us to get back to normality?

I was probably expecting an annual vaccination as we do for flu for example but 90 days isn't long at all.

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Trying2Heal · 08/12/2020 00:04

It seems a bit mental that they're talking about lifting restrictions before April given that nobody even knows how long the vaccine will last and how often people will need a new jab. Plus it's only being given to older people at the moment. We don't even know when under-50s will get vaccinated. All very random.

How does the fact that many pensioners and people in care homes will have had a jab that lasts who knows how long mean it will be suddenly safe to lift restrictions and go back to normal???

pontypridd · 08/12/2020 00:05

The Deb Cohen Covid vaccine story starts at 34.50 on this evening's Newsnight.

There's nothing on Twitter yet.

VenusTiger · 08/12/2020 00:06

@teta v.interesting - there are biologists who are concerned that the mRNA will instruct the body to 'attack' healthy cells, basically, by attacking the waste products of the vaccine.

Trying2Heal · 08/12/2020 00:08

@pontypridd

Just seen Newsnight. I'm sorry but this vaccine is not looking great. It's not inspired me with confidence.

There is so much they/we don't know. It looks like it could be the next pending man made disaster. Sorry to be so doomful. Watching that filled me with fear.

I didn't see Newsnight but I definitely won't be getting vaccinated. It's not been researched properly. Could turn us all into werewolves or worse. What issues did they raise on Newsnight?
GabsAlot · 08/12/2020 00:10

its not been researched properly who do you think reseacrhed it bob from b and q?

Trying2Heal · 08/12/2020 00:14

@GabsAlot

its not been researched properly who do you think reseacrhed it bob from b and q?
There's not been time to know what the long-term effects will be, duh. But anyway I am sure we will all have a say in whether we accept the vaccine or not. The fact that some are sceptical doesn't need to stop you getting the jab if that's what you want for yourself, so there's not really an issue is there.
Trying2Heal · 08/12/2020 00:15

[quote VenusTiger]@teta v.interesting - there are biologists who are concerned that the mRNA will instruct the body to 'attack' healthy cells, basically, by attacking the waste products of the vaccine.[/quote]
Blimey

SinisterBumFacedCat · 08/12/2020 00:23

I’m going to risk turning into a werewolf and have the vaccine if I can. Honestly I think being a werewolf would be pretty awesome.

teta · 08/12/2020 00:27

Really @venustiger?
I must read up on that.
I was initially fascinated by this new virus in January, as we lived in HK during Sars, when it was pretty scary many years ago. And I could see it coming here from mid January.
But I've stopped reading all the scientific journals a while ago as work got really busy. Must start again

FrankieStein402 · 08/12/2020 01:09

@TryingToHeal
If you are going to spread tosh such as "it hasnt been researched properly" at least have the decency to state your credentials or peer reviewed references.

Each of the us/uk teams that have produced vaccines to date comprise the most experienced corona virus researchers in the world today - working on these virus' before covid 19. Point to a single corner that has been cut or stop doing a wakefield.

RoseAndRose · 08/12/2020 06:13

"There's not been time to know what the long-term effects will be"

Do you mean 'late to emerge' or 'long lasting'?

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 08/12/2020 06:15

also it is a live vaccine although in a miniscule amount

This is just plain wrong

You need to use considerably more reliable online sources, rather than Ines with such clear errors

oneglassandpuzzled · 08/12/2020 09:33

@pontypridd

Just seen Newsnight. I'm sorry but this vaccine is not looking great. It's not inspired me with confidence.

There is so much they/we don't know. It looks like it could be the next pending man made disaster. Sorry to be so doomful. Watching that filled me with fear.

I didn't get that impression from watching Newsnight. It explained things we already know we don't know about the vaccine, which we can't know yet. I think it's misleading to say 'this vaccine is not looking great' was the conclusion.
m0therofdragons · 08/12/2020 21:46

Er @VenusTiger it’s well documented that with flu, 1 in 7 people carry it with no symptoms and children are “super spreaders” (not my term but one used in public health papers on flu. This means they would go and hug granny not knowing they’re carrying the flu virus. I’m well informed on this through my job and my children are vaccinated every year.

Stellaris22 · 08/12/2020 21:58

It's not been researched properly

What an insult to all the people who volunteered for the trials and people who have been working tirelessly on this.

carlaCox · 09/12/2020 07:50

I'm genuinely concerned that the government is putting forward vaccinations as the miracle cure to coronavirus. Especially seeing Matt Hancock crying on the TV.

  • It's going to take us months to vaccinate even the most vulnerable groups and there is no pathway to vaccinating the entire population
  • There is no evidence that the vaccine stops transmission of coronavirus, only that it reduces chance of severe symptoms
  • We have no idea how long immunity will last

I'm not particularly concerned about the vaccine being rushed and so on. As far as I understand this is pretty well established science with low risk to humans. I'm far more concerned by the fact that everyone thinks this is some kind of panacea.

We all need to come to terms with the fact that this is a nasty virus that is going to be circulating around the human population indefinitely now. The government, with their scaremongering and perennial lockdowns, is not helping people get their heads round this. I think there will be a big shock when people realise the vaccine is not the silver bullet we've been sold.

TransplantedScouser · 09/12/2020 08:03

The virus most similar to SARS-cov2 is the original sars-cov1 in 2002

People who were infected in 2002 still show T cell immunity 18 years later. Yes they can get infected but their T cells create antibodies before it becomes serious and often before symptomatic.

There is no reason to assume it’s like the flu (annual) which is a completely different virus. Unless you like new new ab-normal

Bushola · 09/12/2020 08:06

So what date in March do we expect the headline

“I had the vaccine, now I’ve got the ol’ Kung Flu”

Sertchgi123 · 09/12/2020 08:07

@Earlgrey666

**oneglassandpuzzled

Nice try

What does this comment relate to?

Scaremongering
Ethelfleda · 09/12/2020 08:19

This thread reads like the cast of the only way is Essex attempting to discuss quantum mechanics.

It’s actually quite amusing. And scary.

Kudos to those with actual brains who’ve had the patience to post on here attempting to explain it. You’re better people than I.

unchienandalusia · 09/12/2020 08:54

God some people are just looking for the doom in everything.

The vaccine is great news.

carlaCox · 09/12/2020 09:02

I'm looking forward to reigniting this thread in six months and saying "I told you so"...!

From the New York Times yesterday:

“A lot of people are thinking that once they get vaccinated, they’re not going to have to wear masks anymore,” said Michal Tal, an immunologist at Stanford University. “It’s really going to be critical for them to know if they have to keep wearing masks, because they could still be contagious.”

No evidence the vaccine prevents transmission of coronavirus. It might do, but there's no evidence yet.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 09/12/2020 09:16

@carlaCox

I'm looking forward to reigniting this thread in six months and saying "I told you so"...!

From the New York Times yesterday:

“A lot of people are thinking that once they get vaccinated, they’re not going to have to wear masks anymore,” said Michal Tal, an immunologist at Stanford University. “It’s really going to be critical for them to know if they have to keep wearing masks, because they could still be contagious.”

No evidence the vaccine prevents transmission of coronavirus. It might do, but there's no evidence yet.

You want things to turn out badly just so you can be right. Nice.
trulydelicious · 09/12/2020 09:19

@Ethelfleda

This thread reads like the cast of the only way is Essex attempting to discuss quantum mechanics

Why do you treat people with disdain?

They are the ones who will have to consent to these vaccines being injected into their bodies. They are allowed to ask questions, are they not? And (shock horror!) they may not agree with your answer

TransplantedScouser · 09/12/2020 09:31

It’s not disdain

However people reading articles, not understanding them properly and then regurgitating the incorrect version as fact is part of the problem

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