Wwyd New Year's

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So opinions. We are up north in a T3 area but our actual local rates are dropping drastically. In laws live down south in a T2 area 100s of miles we can't meet half way. We aren't going for Xmas as bil X2 plus family will be there so we would be too many households. Before the Xmas rules came out we had talked about going for new year...I've now said I don't think we can due to restrictions and mil not happy. I'm now wondering what we should do seeing as apparently everyone else is doing what they want. We have followed the guidelines 100% so far Including in tier 2 before lockdown. Mil is healthy and lives by herself..in our situation wwyd- just interested really- I suppose it is feasible we might be in tier 2 by then as well but not sure.

Is MIL in a bubble with anyone, if not then she could become a bubble with you, then visiting would be ok as she lives alone.

We have to wait till mid December to see what the next tiers will be.

No, I wouldn't do this. I would just follow the rules this year. Neither of you are alone over Christmas, or needing care.

Thanks guys befuddled person those are my thoughts really. Mindy she is already in a bubble with family who live nearer which makes more sense x

How old is MIL - age is the greatest risk factor?

i would we are going to a party - 6 families

Mil is 60s there are 5 of us with 3 primary school age DC.

@Ginogineli

i would we are going to a party - 6 families

Hoping this is a joke? !!

Everyone else breaking the rules wouldn’t make me happy to break the rules.

I wouldn’t personally because she will be seeing family at Christmas. I possibly would have if she was not seeing anyone much over Christmas but I think the rules are generous and fair and are mainly to ensure no one is alone, not so we can squeeze in as many visits as we can. Just my opinion though, and I agree it seems many others are interpreting the rules to suit themselves including older people.

Thanks we have said we will leave it until nearer the time and see what tiers are doing then. It's just so hard when you are following rules but others aren't and you fell pressured to break them...your replies have made me think cheers all!

I can’t see any indoor mixing being allowed after the Christmas bonanza - we’ve not been allowed anyone in our home for months now in Scotland. (Tier two.)

I was going to keep my DC out for the first week of school because of other people doing Christmas. Looks like it will be two weeks if NYE is going to be a rule breaker too.
I am ECV. We aren't seeing anyone over Christmas.

Us neither Judy we had restrictions before lockdown so no-one in our house so CE September we have followed everything to the letter so far....we won't go I don't think unless the situation changes just wanted opinions. I feel like some people think we are being overly paranoid. We are just having us for Xmas as my 90 year old Grandad lives with my parents. Lots of people round here are taking kids out of school for the last week but we both work in jobs that aren't totally from home so would be hard x

Personally I wouldn't. We're Tier 3 as well. DM (84) is disappointed about Christmas. She is Tier 2 as is my brother, so we agreed he would have DM as usual and we can pop over and see her between Christmas and New Year as we're both off work so we're not mixing too many families. As I say, she's disappointed but I'm trying to emphasise the importance that everyone is safe, and that we can all have a family gathering in the summer when hopefully things will be a bit easier.

Tier 2 is no mixing indoors anyway. So even if you went down to Tier 2 it would be only rule of 6 outdoors that that would be an option if you are sticking to the guidelines.

You can't have anyone indoors in a tier 2 area and she's making the most of the three family thing over xmas, so it has to be a no.

Most are sticking to the restrictions. Those that don't, just have to accept there are others trying to do their bit.

In case anyone misread my post my mum is in Tier 2, a solo household so we’re her bubble.

What would I do? Stay at home, and plan to see her next year when restrictions are listed. Even if you go down to Tier 2, unless you are happy to break the law, you won't be able to stay at her house or see her indoors at New Year. And personally, it sounds like enough people are doing Christmas mixing, to make New Year mixing a really bad idea.

Yes, some people are happy to break the law. It doesn't mean we should all follow suit.

Yeah I think we would it go down if they move to tier 1 forgot to say wouldn't have to stay in her house as another family member who is working abroad says we can use their flat which is nearby. It's more travel out of 3 that is the current issue. I do agree largely with the rules that's why I have followed them strictly so far, there are 5 of us so haven't really been able to make the most of the rule of 6, cancelled kids birthday celebrations, not been in anyone's house since mid September, not had any family childcare etc due to other vulnerable family members etc so we are not daft. It's just when you go our and see families out in groups of 7 or 8 with both sets of grandparents and when 1 part of your family are much more relaxed than the others it makes you question your decisions. Thanks for helping me see that we aren't being too strict.

It’s just a date on a calendar, nobody needs to have a NYE party. But good that it sounds like you’ve decided against it. It would be totally against the rules whether in tier 3 or 2. I can’t see people being moved down to tier 1 before Jan.

There’s probably going to be a horrible spike in cases due the Xmas free for all. Why risk putting you and your family in need of an icu bed when demand is probably going to be greater than availability?

Sorry should say I think will only go if she is tier 1 and we are tier 2 for context she is in Dorset and we are in Northumberland.

Nye is always overrated anyway. Too much pressure. Just chill at home and see each other when you can.