Restaurants/ cafes & 'no households mixing indoors'

[NotAKaren]

So 'no households mixing indoors' for is clearly not being adhered to in restaurants and cafes not sure about pubs. Although not sure how they can be expected to police this TBH. If this continues are we heading for trouble in January?

@NotAKaren

So 'no households mixing indoors' for is clearly not being adhered to in restaurants and cafes not sure about pubs. Although not sure how they can be expected to police this TBH. If this continues are we heading for trouble in January?

how do you know this?

Why so many comments about this recently? This was the rule before lockdown for anyone in Tier 2, this hasn't changed post lockdown, if people weren't obeying then they're not obeying now

@AcornAutumn DD works in a cafe and her boss has said not to make a fuss about it. She knows the regular faces and said it's pretty easy to say who is from the same household. Her friends have been shopping and eaten out over and her the last few days and say they have not been challenged. SIL met with friend for lunch today completely missed the part about no mixing indoors applying to restaurants said she thought it was just people's homes

I work in a business that supplies restaurants, pubs etc. All our clients are very much trying to enforce the no mixing of households indoors rule. Asking when bookings are taken, when you arrive. Reserving the right to refuse entry etc. Sure people can lie, but there’s no sign locally that this is happening on a grand scale or that venues are turning a blind eye to it. Of course it just be happening in some places, but it’s not a blanket thing by any means.

The issue is so many places were in Tier 1 before lockdown and could mix in cafes and restaurants, up to 6 people. We have come out of lockdown in Tier 2, with the same infection levels, but now cannot meet up anywhere indoors. It's annoying and I am sure people are making their own risk assessments. I am just about to have a row with DD who wants to meet a boy in our local town later, a month ago she was meeting with small groups of friends for lunch and dinner in London, now she essentially can't do anything, its sad.

They are adhering in my area however I have seen so manh people out in london (on instagram) mixing in various different groups and more than 6 being seated together.

When I have booked the places online (for my family) it’s been very clear on every website what the rules are. Not sure what else restaurants etc can do. All seems very quiet round here so most people sticking to it. Usually busy pubs deserted. It’s really awful for them.

Its impossible for restaurant owners to know who lives with who they will have to rely on the public sticking to the rules but to be honest they are probably just glad to be doing business again, it doesn't make much business sense to turn people away now who might not then return after restrictions are lifted

I am meeting friends tonight, we are sitting outside. It is fine. I am not seeing anyone mixing inside, and I have been out twice now with dh. All couples mainly.

A friend of mine has booked multiple places with another friend and their kids. They just do the 'if anyone asks were a support bubble' so example she'd be I a bubble with ' Katie and little Bobby Monday'
Jessica and Little max Tuesday and so forth.
Like she said no one to prove or question.

Next week I had an event booked at a well known place with a friend. We'd booked pre lockdown. They called and said being as its juts 2 adults and 3 under 3s. We can sit together but if we're asked then we're to say we're a bubble.! Fwiw I cancelled anyway as double booked but still my point stands that venues are just as bad.

Cases are coming down for now though, so I suppose enough people are complying.
See what happens after Christmas though.

What’s new? This has been the case since June when everything opened up and all the way through ‘eat out to help out’. @GreyishDays lockdown only ended on weds so we know lockdown worked not the new tiers

I suspect most restaurants will just let people get on with it..they desperately need the custom and have no idea if two friends are friends or live together. I would be furious if I were challenged....

I cannot really see busy fast food places facing being able to police this

In Scotland you can mix 2 households in cafes even in level 3. I think the view is that it is safer than at home (more people watching, better cleaning), and good for people who are lonely and can’t cope with the cold outside.

We have stricter rules in other things though. I guess if it gets flouted too much then they’ll have to tighten some other rule instead, something that’s easier to monitor.

We ate at a large cafe chain on Wednesday and I would say half of the tables were mixed households.

@Lifeispassingby

What’s new? This has been the case since June when everything opened up and all the way through ‘eat out to help out’. *@GreyishDays* lockdown only ended on weds so we know lockdown worked not the new tiers

Oh yeah, good point. I forgot about the lockdown as I’m not in England.

Ive been to a cafe recently and a pub

We were asked in the pub but not the cafe (both chains)

@MauisLeftNipple

We ate at a large cafe chain on Wednesday and I would say half of the tables were mixed households.

But how would you know?

And there’s lots of exemptions, I think babies under 1, single parent households, if you have a vulnerable or disabled person in your family, you can then still bubble like a singleton. (That sounds funny).

So you can eat with someone from a different household if you are in a support bubble together? So of course most cafes will be full of people who don’t look like they are from the same household.

I had no idea about the rule, but it would explain why it was so easy to get a seat at one of my regular cafes at lunch time and also why the owner thanked us for visiting. Usually this particular place is busy, it was busy pre lockdown, but carefully so. It’s just another blow for the restaurant trade.

feverup.com/m/93195

Events like this being advertised in London. Totally irresponsible and I don’t know how they get away with it

Let's not forget you can mix in a cafe/restaurant if it's for business purposes. Which is in fact what I'll be doing next week when I meet my boss at a cafe for a coffee and to talk about work face to face for the first time in 9 months!

@Youngatheart00

feverup.com/m/93195

Events like this being advertised in London. Totally irresponsible and I don’t know how they get away with it

Well they’d have checked it’s allowed

I reckon there will be another lockdown to stop these events

I know a few people who have been to events like this and the tables are far apart and you have to wear a mask unless seated, so...it’s a bar. They probably had to apply for a licence for it.

Searcy have their NYE event as usual- they’ll have applied for a licence.
Personally I’m relieved there something left of nightlife.

Oh link if anyone wants to go!

searcysatthegherkin.co.uk/events/new-years-eve-at-the-top-of-the-gherkin/

Adult DS is in a bubble with a friend as he is single so he would probably look like he was in mixed households if he was out, there must be loads of people like this