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When will elderly MIL be vaccinated?

31 replies

Davespecifico · 03/12/2020 22:15

MIL 84 says her GP has told her that she’ll be vaccinated in the next fortnight. Realistically, when do you think she might get her vaccination?

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bringbackCabanas · 03/12/2020 22:51

Sounds realistic.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/12/2020 22:59

Depends if he’s basing it on specific information or just being optimistic.

LemonTT · 03/12/2020 23:02

It’s definitely possible and might be probable. GPs are due to start before Christmas but will be restricted in getting out to the housebound.

StatisticalSense · 04/12/2020 00:31

Mid January at the earliest I'd have thought unless she has specific health issues that increase her risk relative to the typical 84 year old or an appointment for an unrelated matter booked at a major hospital in the next couple of weeks.

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 04/12/2020 02:41

I have a huge issue with the way they are rolling it out across nursing homes, they need consent from every patient, if consent is not given and the vaccination is given this is a massive issue, who speaks up for the vulnerable who lacks mental capacity? Lots and lots of ethical issues here.

What if a resident refuses? What if staff make the choice for them?

If we start doing things without informed consent, we will be walking a very dangerous path.

Inkpaperstars · 04/12/2020 03:02

The vaccination is in two parts isn’t it? So it would just be the first stage she would be having initially.

vodkaredbullgirl · 04/12/2020 03:02

Staff are not allowed to make a decision for that person. People who lack capacity have a relative who can decide for them

vodkaredbullgirl · 04/12/2020 03:05

What I mean is someone who has power of attorney for the said person.

ApolloandDaphne · 04/12/2020 03:22

I don't think they are going to turn up at
a care home in a van with people in white suits and a load of vaccines to swoop in and jab needles in all the elderly residents them swish off again! I imagine they will all be asked for consent as normal with those unable to give consent having someone nominated who can do this for them.

Calmandmeasured1 · 04/12/2020 03:29

Realistically? In the next fortnight like her GP told her.

SingANewSongChickenTikka · 04/12/2020 05:28

I have a huge issue with the way they are rolling it out across nursing homes, they need consent from every patient, if consent is not given and the vaccination is given this is a massive issue

Do you have any information to suggest that this ‘they’ are not going to seek consent, in the usually way that would be in place for every other medical intervention?

Graciebobcat · 04/12/2020 05:34

Don't care homes have this issue every year with flu jabs?

I thought there were two jabs though. One before Christmas (for over 80s), one likely in January.

evenmoreforthemoor · 04/12/2020 06:20

@GalaxyCookieCrumble

I have a huge issue with the way they are rolling it out across nursing homes, they need consent from every patient, if consent is not given and the vaccination is given this is a massive issue, who speaks up for the vulnerable who lacks mental capacity? Lots and lots of ethical issues here.

What if a resident refuses? What if staff make the choice for them?

If we start doing things without informed consent, we will be walking a very dangerous path.

Where have you got this information from? Or is it something your brain has made up because you don't understand how consent for vaccination works?
hopefulhalf · 04/12/2020 06:28

I think it's highly likely if she can get to one of the "hubs" she will get a vaccine in the next week or so. My source ? A medical photographer who has been asked to produce posters for the vaccine for today. My trust is starting on monday 😀

daisypond · 04/12/2020 06:32

I’m surprised by that. My parents are in their mid-late 80s and they aren’t expecting to have the vaccine that soon.

Angel2702 · 04/12/2020 06:33

@GalaxyCookieCrumble

I have a huge issue with the way they are rolling it out across nursing homes, they need consent from every patient, if consent is not given and the vaccination is given this is a massive issue, who speaks up for the vulnerable who lacks mental capacity? Lots and lots of ethical issues here.

What if a resident refuses? What if staff make the choice for them?

If we start doing things without informed consent, we will be walking a very dangerous path.

They will have had capacity assessed and checked regularly there are separate areas for medical and financial. If they lack capacity they will already have a plan in place for general medical procedures and treatment. There will be a relative that has power of attorney and they would make that decision on their behalf.
PurpleMustang · 04/12/2020 06:45

Its going to depend on where she lives. The experts said on TV that it can not be moved around too much due to the temperature it needs to be kept at so people that live at home will go to hubs to have it (2 jabs 3 weeks apart) and that the care home patients are likely to get the Oxford one that can be transported/stored easier, hopefully approved by Christmas. I think the care home staff though will get the first vaccine as they will be able to go to the hub to get the injections. And it was said if you haven't, and should have the flu jab, get it done as that needs doing a week before the vaccine. My source? Experts on the TV

starfish4 · 04/12/2020 08:27

People who can't decide for themselves will have a next of kin, attorney or an advocate might be appointed to assess and decide on their part.

bringbackCabanas · 04/12/2020 19:30

@GalaxyCookieCrumble

I have a huge issue with the way they are rolling it out across nursing homes, they need consent from every patient, if consent is not given and the vaccination is given this is a massive issue, who speaks up for the vulnerable who lacks mental capacity? Lots and lots of ethical issues here.

What if a resident refuses? What if staff make the choice for them?

If we start doing things without informed consent, we will be walking a very dangerous path.

But you're just assuming that they won't get proper consent, that is unless you have some info to back this up? This is the kind of thing that develops at life of its own on the internet and contributes to the anti-Vax / anti-science agenda and it drives me nuts Angry
vodkaredbullgirl · 04/12/2020 22:31

We have got forms ready to be signed by relatives for covid injections for loved ones. Work in a dementia care home. Still don't know how we will get them to the site, when it opens.

Musicaltheatremum · 04/12/2020 23:28

Over 80s are being vaccinated by GPs if they can get to the surgery. Younger people will go to hubs. We have been told we should get vaccine around 21st December. We have 300 people to vaccinate twice as well as keep people distanced and do our day to day work. We are planning logistics just now

ragged · 05/12/2020 13:15

iirc, the jab is twice, 3-4 weeks apart, and then allow 2 weeks for immunity to form. So end of January before she might be able to perceive herself as protected. And no one knows for how long.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2020 13:34

Musicaltheatremum, thank you for everything you are doing Flowers

Neolara · 05/12/2020 13:40

My dad lives in Kent and is in his 80s. He was speaking to someone earlier in the week who runs a big GP practice who said they were expecting to vaccinate people of his age in March.

Burnthurst187 · 05/12/2020 13:52

@Calmandmeasured1

Realistically? In the next fortnight like her GP told her.
Agreed, the clue for op was when the GP said in the next fortnight
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