Refusing to isolate if child is positive.

[Hotpinkangel19]

X is Dad, Y is mum.
X is at work, Y decided child needed a test as coughing, so takes said child.
Y calls X to make him aware and he says he can't come home from work, and even if child tests positive he can't take time off to SI as there's not enough staff.
What to I say to Y? She's a close friend. He should be SI.

So what do you suggest the op actually does then @ktp100?

I’d ring his workplace and let them know. They have a duty of care to the other staff.

I’d also distance from any friend who didn’t self isolate when needing too.

Keep out of it, some people don't have the financial luxury of isolating.

@ktp100

All this talk of minding your own business is disgraceful!!

It's ALL of our business!!

You best hope some selfish twat doesn't kill your grandparents! I doubt you'd be so glib about it then!

Exactly this. The situation I’ve been in today.

@QueenBlueberries no it is NOT

If anyone has symptoms the WHOLE household needs to isolate until negative test, or continue to isolate if test results positive

I feel sorry for your friend to be in this position to be honest. I myself would have this dilemma if me or my DC tested positive DH couldn't afford to take the time off. He's self employed, what savings we had were decimated during the first lockdown never mind this current lockdown when he's also been unable to work, added another 2 weeks unpaid into the mix would have very very serious implications for us. Im lucky so far that we haven't been put in that position yet but I can totally understand why some families are torn in this position. Morals and the greater good doesn't put food on the table unfortunately, and it can literally be a choice in eating and heating for the family or going without completely, its a shame that some people in their ivory towers can't grasp this.

FFS! I despair...
Of course he should socially isolate, no two ways about it. It's all of our business as it affects us all as it potentially spreads it to more and more people.
The chances are that he'll catch it anyway living in the same household as his child. He'll have to take time off then anyway and could be ill for longer than an isolation period so will still lose pay.
He's a selfish bastard with no consideration about who he could kill by his actions.
Report him to public health or Police and let him get fined.
This beviour should not be socially acceptable to anyone, and it needs to be seen as such so there is pressure on people to do the right thing.

I am so pissed off with all the people not following the rules. They do deserve to be reported and fined. My family are really struggling with staying in and not seeing our friends and extended family and we’ve still got months to go before life can move to an even slightly more normal (providing the vaccines keep moving forward).
I get the financial struggles for those who don’t get paid if they don’t work. I’m self employed so fall in to that category, but I just want all this crap to end and it isn’t going to with so many people not self isolating when they should be and continuing to spread the virus about.

And the companies threatening disciplinary action to employees who don’t come in because they should be self isolating also need to be fined for not helping to contain the virus.

You don't actually NEED rules.. you just need an ounce of social responsibility and common sense ..

If the child is positive are you more or less likely to spread the sodding virus and keep us all living this half life.

Of course it's your business. It's ALL OUR FUCKING BUSINESS !! Report to the local authority if the child is positive.

@AHippoNamedBooBooButt the whole family should be isolating whilst waiting for a test result

oops. sorry.

No ivory towers here just simple social decency.

Ha in our place we are disciplining anyone that puts people at risk. We are busy yes, but staff and customers are more important. don’t want to risk anyone. Confirmed exposure means stay away. Simple

@Emski76

No ivory towers here just simple social decency.

Exactly. Putting others at risk isn’t acceptable. Would people feel no guilt if someone fell seriously ill or worse due to their actions of ignoring isolation?

@Emski76

No ivory towers here just simple social decency.

Social decency doesn't keep your family warm and fed im afraid! Im in no way condoning this, of course he should isolate, I just accept how it can be an actual real dilemma for some families. Theres been threads and comments on here from many people where employers have told them to turn off the test and trace app, or been toldnot to isolate despite having contact with someone positive, some being NHS workers and teachers. Its a disgrace that people are put in this position from employers, its them that should be fined not the person trying to hang on to their income in a world of ever growing redundancy and unemployment.

Financial reasons must be the main reasons why some dont comply with isolation, im sure there's the odd one who refuses to out of arrogance, but for a lot of people isolating either once or multiple times has very serious consequences. Yes theres the £500 grant but that can only be claimed once and its quite restrictive on who would actually qualify for it in the first place.

I hope the child tests negative & stay out of it.