In what order do you think we should vaccinate?

[giantangryrooster]

Or rather who do you think should get the vaccine first?

My country is about to announce a vaccination plan and I wondered what I would choose. Some suggestions as I see it:

The elderly (oldest) first, then going down the age groups, as they are the most vulnerable.

Or

Hospital staff and carers in nursing homes first, to prevent spread to the vulnerable.

Or

The seriously ill first, given they (hopefully) have more years to live than the elderly and is (presumably) in more contact with health-care staff.

Or

?

What do you think and do you have any better suggestions?

With an eye on spreading events, too, the groups may overlap:
Medical staff of all kinds + teachers/ educators
people in 'mass housing' (care homes, refuges etc.)
people working in meat plants and distribution centers of all sorts
those statistically most likely to end up in hospital or dead
the others ...

NHS hospital staff should be first in my opinion. If they are having to isolate or getting Covid and can't work then who is going to look after the sick and keep hospitals running?

I think learning disabled adults in residential care homes. They are often happy with years to live but are dying at alarming rates and cant always tolerate some of the treatments available to others.
Then front line staff
Then age/evc

Elderly people in care homes should get it first. They are the most likely group to need hospitalisation, and staff in care homes and in NHS facilities are more likely to get covid from them. If people over 80 get vaccination first, it is very likely that we will see a significant decline in infection rate in NHS staff.

Then I think it should NHS staff and carers who work in elderly people's facilities.

Third, I think it should be disabled people. I know this is an old article (from September, which is light years in covid times) but it states that disabled people make up 6 in 10 covid deaths in the UK. metro.co.uk/2020/09/18/disabled-people-make-up-six-in-ten-coronavirus-deaths-13292743/

Then, the elderly between 70-80, people who have been shielding, and then, I think probably other critical workers should be vaccinated - police officers, social workers, teachers, firefighters, etc.

Then everybody else under 70, and going down in age from then.

1. Me

1. You. Yes, you

I should be very last. I can't muster an opinion on any other part of the order jabs go out.

I would definitely prioritise CEV people over healthy high-contact professionals, except for medical and care home workers. The most vulnerable teachers, police etc would be included in that group, which would remove most of the collective risk from those professions. Not sure why a healthy young school worker or prison officer should be prioritised over a 60 year old transplant recipient, for example.

I'd do it the way we are in the UK, I agree with the list. It goes by the most vulnerable, which has been identified as age, and those who work with the most vulnerable i.e. health care and care workers. It's very fair and covers everyone that needs to be covered in the priority group.

@giantangryrooster

At the moment I'll just be happy if they don't make it available privately

I would like our government to be the last to get the vaccine just to keep things going with political pressure. As is, i expect they will be the first, but not publicly talked about .

The Government and their families should be first.

They insist this is safe. Let them prove that.

(This list does not take into account logistics / effectiveness of different vaccines)

1. CEV all ages
2. Health and care staff
3. Care home residents
4. Teachers - their job puts them at a high risk plus widespread disruption to education and people's work if whole class has to isolate when a teacher gets sick
5. Older age groups and CV
6. Working age Higher risk jobs e.g. supermarkets

I do want the vaccine but at >40 WFH I am happy to wait my turn. I do feel more consideration ought to be given to people who are exposed at work (a lot is said about viral load) - they can't just choose to stay at home they have to work, and its not just dying there's all the complications. Also young CEV.

1. Care home workers and residents
2. Nhs and hospital workers
3. Over 80s
4. Anyone on the shielding CEV list including those with BMI over 40
5. Other health care professionals like dentists, opticians
6. Over 70s
7. Teachers and nursery/pre school workers
8. Police/supermarket/prison workers
9. Over 60s

10. Uni students to stop the spread 11. Over 50s etc

@DarkMintChocolate

It should be clear by now what the death rates are for each group - do it by that, going down.

The trouble with this, is those who did shield - especially those who shielded alone or as a family unit - will not have had as much exposure to the virus as those who are older but carried on as normal. So when people state that older people are more likely to die than any of the shielding groups, this could easily be because of their difference in exposure.

So when people state that older people are more likely to die than any of the shielding groups, this could easily be because of their difference in exposure.

This is acknowledged in the JCVI report which says (paraphrase) that data on shielding deaths is unreliable as they have been shielding.

And why have they been shielding? Because their risk of death if they catch covid is very, very high. I'm shocked at the number of people who would put them well down the list behind "healthy" groups like teachers or firefighters.