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Do we all just need to be more like the Cornish?

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User158340 · 26/11/2020 13:22

Cornwall in tier 1 and have coped admirably with the pandemic.

There's the perception that they're just much better rule followers in Cornwall, but is it just a better sense of community and they look out for each other more.

Is it wrong to say other parts of the country could learn a lot from Cornwall and the way the leaders and the people there have handled this pandemic?

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HesterShaw1 · 29/11/2020 11:45

Two more things sorry

The latest rate I heard was 55 per 100 000 cases and falling.

And generally rule compliance is extremely high. When people talk about the kind of guidance breaking they are seeing in other areas, I don't recognise it at all. Go into a shop and almost everyone is wearing a mask, for instance. See a school bus and all the kids have them on. People are wandering around outside in the fresh air and breeze wearing them FGS. The population was successfully scared to death back in the spring, and a great many people are still in that mindset.

Ted27 · 29/11/2020 11:49

@userxx

Upthread I referred to the recent Simon Reeves 2 parter on Cornwall post lockdown.Very good on the structural issues of employment and housing and how they have been exacerbated by Covid.
Reliance on food banks in some towns quite shocking

FuzzyPuffling · 29/11/2020 13:05

People tested positive by specimen date
Seven days to 23 November 2020
22
Rate per 100k resident population: 206.2

The above is yesterday's published count from Bude.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 29/11/2020 15:36

@FuzzyPuffling

People tested positive by specimen date Seven days to 23 November 2020 22 Rate per 100k resident population: 206.2

The above is yesterday's published count from Bude.

I read that too. MIL is there and thinks they are free of coronavirus. Which is,worrying.
scentedgeranium · 29/11/2020 17:55

Another Cornish Maid here. Agree with most of what's been said: low density living, outdoorsy entertainment. Small workplaces. It's notable that the outbreaks there have been have been in meat processing plants. Two of them really spiked out cases.
However on the subject of Simon Reeve, while most of what he covered was accurate those flippin Burrito boys were not as hard done by as he made out. Bit of lazy reporting there I'm afraid. He could have picked far better cases. Beans could be spilled there.....

CousinLucy · 29/11/2020 17:57

@userxx absolutely one of the poorest places in western Europe. We are heavily reliant on EU handouts and obviously stand to lose out. Without de-railing the thread, it was about a 48/52 vote in favour of Brexit so I'm not sure many locals know how poor they are in comparison to other parts of the UK.

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-second-poorest-region-northern-1977843.amp

It is a 2018 but it's probably not altered.

MrsHarryKane · 29/11/2020 20:08

@scentedgeranium those burrito boys worried a few locals by providing a food service but having no washing facilities for themselves (they claimed to be living in vans, didn’t they) Grin

scentedgeranium · 29/11/2020 20:17

@MrsHarryKane There was that, and apparently they weren't as down at heel as we were given to believe. And it smacked of a summer lark to me. There are young people my children went to school with who really have struggled year in, year out, trying to get businesses up and running and with no back up. Not just for a single summer.
Still, great PR for their new venture.
Good luck to them. It just wasn't as authentic as portrayed

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 30/11/2020 07:13

Our rural area of Scotland has been much harder hit this time but thankfully hasn’t converted to people in hospital. I work in nhs so get updates every week and still less than 10 with suspected and less than 5 in icu

EndChildFoodPoverty · 30/11/2020 22:38

An ode to George Eustice dotted around town.

Do we all just need to be more like the Cornish?
scentedgeranium · 01/12/2020 07:26

@EndChildFoodPoverty I like that. I wonder if that wag could come up with something for Dim Derek, our party Stooge?

Robinelf · 01/12/2020 07:29

@HesterShaw1 - I agree with the outdoor lifestyle being a factor. Being outside as much as possible seems normal, even in winter.

Robinelf · 01/12/2020 07:32

And the fact that public transport is not widely used.

HesterShaw1 · 01/12/2020 11:50

[quote CousinLucy]@userxx absolutely one of the poorest places in western Europe. We are heavily reliant on EU handouts and obviously stand to lose out. Without de-railing the thread, it was about a 48/52 vote in favour of Brexit so I'm not sure many locals know how poor they are in comparison to other parts of the UK.

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-second-poorest-region-northern-1977843.amp

It is a 2018 but it's probably not altered.[/quote]
It was very interesting how different the vote was across Cornwall's different constituencies. They talk about how much fishing influenced the vote, but the Leave result in St Ives and the Isles of Scilly which contains the main fishing port of Newlyn (for example) much more closely mirrored the national average than somewhere like North Cornwall

Truro & Falmouth - REMAIN: 28,470 LEAVE: 25,393

St Ives - REMAIN: 21,105 LEAVE: 25,022

Camborne & Redruth - REMAIN: 23,704 LEAVE: 39,827

South East Cornwall - REMAIN: 22,972 LEAVE: 32,067

North Cornwall - REMAIN: 21,669 LEAVE: 31,848

A lot of the fishing industry - particularly shellfish - knows full well its major export opportunities are with France and Spain rather than domestic.

And yet Cornwall was portrayed as somewhere which uniformly voted overwhelmingly for Leave.

Sorry for going off topic...

borageforager · 01/12/2020 11:54

[quote Robinelf]@HesterShaw1 - I agree with the outdoor lifestyle being a factor. Being outside as much as possible seems normal, even in winter.[/quote]
This is true for other areas too - I live in north Devon, very outdoorsy. But the rest of Devon has two cities to Cornwall’s small one city, so...

HesterShaw1 · 01/12/2020 12:28

Yes it's definitely true of other areas, of course. However it's one of Cornwall's factors, combined with others, I suspect.

Exeter and Plymouth are decent sized cities whereas Truro is more like a small town.

How is north Devon specifically doing at the moment?

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