Derbyshire - which tier?

[Lissy23]

We are in a low incidence area, so hopefully will be able to go away as planned to Derbyshire (Peak District) in a week’s time.

Can anyone who lives in the area predict what tier the Peak District area will go into? I know nobody knows for sure right now, but based on local rates.

Long time lurker here (and I need a better username!). My post isn't going to be a fat lot of help though I'm afraid. Derbyshire as a whole hasn't got the best rates due to higher cases in Derby and a couple of other districts. Derbyshire Dales (which covers my part of the Peak District) is a lot lower, I think 200/10,000 or thereabouts. Our local Tory MP is campaigning for tier 1 or 2 rather than being lumped in with the rest of the county, but I don't know yet how much sway she holds (very public Boris supporter but who knows if that will count for anything!).

Sorry, that should have been 100,000 forgot a 0!

I'm in Derbyshire and I think we'll be tier 2.

Number 10 briefed unofficially this morning that there won't be anywhere in England in tier 1

I'm also in derbyshire and we were in tier 2 prelockdown although it rumoured that some parts were going into tier 3 before lockdown.
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I think they might split Derbyshire like they did before the lockdown. I live in Amber Valley so expecting tier 3 as our rates are high. The peaks are a lot lower so you might get away with being a lower tier.

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It depends, different parts of Derbyshire can go into different tiers. At first, the part of the High Peak I'm in was lumped in with Manchester, and then it wasn't. It depends on the numbers in the specific part of Derbyshire you mean.

It depends whether Derbyshire is lumped together or split into different parts. I live in the High Peak and we would probably be best in tier 3, unfortunately.

@Toriathebadger we are supposed to be staying in Bakewell

They seem to be trying to keep it simpler this time, I'd be surprised if it's split into anything smaller than city and county, it gets too complicated at borough/district council level or lower.

From what I understand they are keen to keep entire counties the same this time rather than different tiers for different councils. On that basis I'd say Tier 2, I'm in a part of Derbyshire that was Tier 2 before lockdown - near the Nottingham border. Possibly even tier 3 for the city centre.

I'd say tier 2 for Bakewell area but I also know the majority of the country will be in tier 3 until Christmas time.

To put things into context. I'm Greater Manchester, my borough is 223/100,000 and I anticipate tier 3.

No one knows really.

I'm high peak too, i think we will be tier two but also think it would make more sense to lump us in with great manchester

Frustratingly while rates in Derby are still high, they have peaked and are declining, often quite rapidly in the the majority of neighbourhoods. My area is on a third of cases compared to two weeks ago.

We only went into tier 2 5 days before Lockdown came into effect. If we come out at tier 3 after 5 days of tier 2 and 4 weeks of lockdown, does that not mean it's a resounding failure

It's an awkward county with a large N/S split and influenced by other cities such as Manchester, Sheffield and Nottingham. To travel through the county from New Mills to Swadlincote would take towards 2 hours!

I've just had a look at the daily figures for Derbyshire Dales (covering Bakewell) and there have been 5 reported cases today (population 72,000), which is the lowest amount in weeks. On that evidence you'd have to hope for tier 2 but as previous posters have also said, no way of knowing if they'll implement it at county level. Hope you get to come.

Sorry to say that Bakewell is in tier 3 which is crazy 😡

I need to travel to Derbyshire for a meeting at my child's SEN school. It's 4 hours drive and the meeting is early morning. Will these circumstances enable me to stay over in Derbyshire the night before?

@welshmum3- is there any chance you could change the meeting time? If not, perhaps contact some hotels etc to see if you can book (I suspect they may need proof of why you're traveling).

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I need to travel to Derbyshire for a meeting at my child's SEN school. It's 4 hours drive and the meeting is early morning. Will these circumstances enable me to stay over in Derbyshire the night before?

I stayed at a hotel last week and they just called to ask why I was travelling. I don't think they can ask for proof as you're allowed stay for things like funerals,if it's unsafe to go home and moving house. Not sure how you'd even prove those.

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I've just looked at the tier 3 govt rules and it looks like you might not. Maybe contact the school to rearrange or could it be done via zoom? Etc?

"accommodation such as hotels, B&Bs, campsites, and guest houses must close. There are several exemptions, such as for those who use these venues as their main residence, and those requiring the venues where it is reasonably necessary for work or education and training"

And this "avoid travelling to other parts of the UK, including for overnight stays other than where necessary, such as for work, education, youth services, to receive medical treatment, or because of caring responsibilities. You can travel through other areas as part of a longer journey"

You can stay overnight for essential reasons, care is on the list, but I expect most hotels will remain shut. We too are tier 3 thanks to proximity to cities despite being low