Most common covid exposure settings ranked.

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news.sky.com/story/covid-19-supermarkets-most-common-exposure-setting-for-catching-coronavirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

So according to this article number 1 is supermarkets and in second and third place are secondary and primary schools. Care homes are right down the list alongside hospitals.
Care home and hospitals are where the most restrictions are currently in place. Appears to me that the more restrictions in place the less exposure.
Definitely very true in my tier 3 area (Yorkshire and Humber) which is currently the worst hit area in England.

On that list the only place I’ve been in the last month is to the supermarket - so it’s not really surprising it tops the list - am sure many are like me.

Regardless of where they are in terms of supermarkets, it's interesting that nhs are way below. This demonstrates that will correct SD, hand washing, testing etc it can be controlled.

I'm not surprised at the supermarkets being high, many of them have stopped limiting customers. I was amazed the other day at how packed the place was. The last time I went about 3 weeks ago it was almost empty and staff limiting numbers.

Would help if supermarkets like Coop who do offer same day delivery, to go back to free or very cheap deliveries like they had before this lockdown.

Ooooooor a student could have caught it in a supermarket but been to school before testing positive! It’s almost like... we can’t actually tell one way or another!

Mine caught it from school.
We have no visitors. Both our support services were over the phone still. I deal with all deliveries as I'm CEV so have to take some extra precautions.
I had CV back in March (yes confirmed) none of my close contacts got it.

Like any other illness there are those who will get it and pass it. There are those who wont. How a person reacts will differ.

We know children present differently and so aren't getting tested, in school and everyone around them is oblivious.

T&T in schools is a shambles and non existent. Haven't staff been asked to turn this off when on site?

I caught it and I'd visited a hair salon and a supermarket.

A paramedic that came out to me said that supermarkets were breeding grounds!

But...my DH has also been working in other people's houses (in a mask). My dog goes to a dog walker and mixes with dogs from other households. We'll just never bloody know.

The data is taken from people with the app. The app is only for people over 16, so the figures for schools should actually be much higher, as that data must only be adults and some year 11, 12 and 13 pupils.

Well, as everyone else has said, this is not where people caught it but where they were in the days before they caught it - so it is highly likely that may people will have gone to the supermarket, and in places with high levels of disease, more than one person with a postive test will have gone to the same supermarket.

OP I agree with you.
You will find on MN that, despite any evidence that is presented, people will argue until they are blue in the face that school transmission is not an issue.
There are quite a few Us4Them people on here.
My friends secondary school has "closed to all year groups" but it is not a "school closure" as online teaching is happening. It will not therefore be recorded as a closure in any statistics. This is a Public Health England decision. Before it closed to all year groups the poor remaining teachers have been struggling on with 50 teachers trying to work from home (if they were well enough) and 400 children at home getting a mixed bag of teaching. There were cover teachers in but teaching was no where near it's usual standard. The children were not getting a proper education. The poor teachers were dropping like flies.

I don't know why some people won't accept schools are NOT COVID safe by any stretch of the imagination. If proper measures were put in place to protect the teachers a half decent education might be given. As it is, the kids are missing out massively.

Big thanks to all teachers and TAs and all school staff out there.

Equally big thank you to supermarket workers and medical and care home staff.

If we don't contain COVID our economy and health service will be ruined - it's barely coping as it is.

Am I being dippy? What about the other 50ish%?

The article literally says:
PHE said the data did not prove where people were contracting coronavirus

It’s a bit like saying 100% of people who have covid drank water in the previous week. Drinking water doesn’t cause covid.

I work in a supermarket and this does not surprise me at all, not only is there no longer a restriction on numbers, one way system or social distancing by customers In the store some of the staff just don’t seem to care, we had one come in for a week whilst her husband was positive as had previously isolated twice and didn’t want to again, she then developed symptoms and still came to work. She was actually in the building when her positive test result came back, I haven’t heard what will happen to her yet but hopefully she will be sacked, 9 members of staff had to isolate because of her and she has basically risked the life of everyone she encountered that week

It doesn't really prove causation though, does it?

Most people visit a supermarket multiple times a week.

Close supermarkets and schools!!!!

Must be devastating for the hospitality industry and others who remained CV secure but had to close for the lockdown.

It’s funny, I’ve been saying to the boyfriend for weeks T&T seems to ping for possible exposure when I’ve been shopping. Gym was fine, absolutely nothing.

I think the problem is that no one knows for sure where the transmission was.

Would help if the government updated their advice for children with symptoms. It's astounding that this still has not been changed.

How many parents are sending them in and schools allowing because it's just a back to school usual bug?

Will be interesting to see age related stats next to the common exposure one.

If school agers are still higher then who can you blame next?

Shocker

Great news that schools aren’t spreaders 😊

In out house at moment we go to work , school and the supermarket as thats all we can do so odds are we will get from one of those places , what a suprise

Yes correlation doesn’t equal causation.
However, The data and results collected (128800 so not a small sample) can be sensibly used to make predictions and or probable causes. Probability.
For many years data showed there was a correlation between smoking and lung cancer. Once again correlation doesn’t equal causation, however we know better now.
Another more recent example is that data shows an obvious correlation between obesity and cancer, from this we can’t conclude that obesity is the only reason you get cancer. So yeah correlation doesn’t equal to causation. However, we can use the data sensibly along with common sense and at least make some risk assessments for ourselves.
The data suggests that supermarkets and schools are the most infectious settings. It doesn’t mean every time you go to a supermarket or school you will get the virus and I don’t think anyone is even suggesting that. It is like the obesity and cancer example. Some will see a probable risk and choose to act upon it even though there is no causal connection. Some will not and look at it from another angle to suit themselves and their own personal circumstances. That why we have doctors that have differing of opinions. Same with scientists. There is no definitive answer. Just probability.
By all means draw your own conclusions, but remember that not everything is down to coincidence.

Yes @Sb2012 the supermarket is a hotbed of death.

Hope you’ve got deliveries booked

@WouldBeGood

Yes *@Sb2012* the supermarket is a hotbed of death.

Hope you’ve got deliveries booked

Did you even read the post about using common sense? Obviously not. Try again, there’s hope for everyone, even you.

That’s NOT what the data says though.