Do you really keep DC indoors for 14 days?

[notevenat20]

DS's school year has been sent home for 14 days because someone in his year has covid. I know we are supposed to keep him indoors the whole time. But what have people really done in practice? It's a very long time not to walk further than the bathroom.

The NHS says try to avoid contact with family members as much as possible so not a 'you must isolate away from your family'.

@JuliaJohnston

From nhs website...

How to reduce the spread of infection in your home

Do
wash your hands with soap and water often, for at least 20 seconds
use hand sanitiser gel if soap and water are not available
cover your mouth and nose with a tissue or your sleeve (not your hands) when you cough or sneeze
put used tissues in the bin immediately and wash your hands afterwards
clean objects and surfaces you touch often (such as door handles, kettles and phones) using your regular cleaning products
consider wearing a face covering when in shared spaces
keep windows open in the room you're staying in and shared spaces as much as possible
Don’t
do not share towels, including hand towels and tea towels

It seems to assume that you will be in shared spaces rather than isolating

And considering children under 12 don’t need to wear masks, I would presume the guidance req mask wearing doesn’t apply!

NO where does it say a child sent gone from school because of a case in their class should be in their bedroom alone for two days weeks

Staying home for 14 days is more detrimental to their health than covid. Especially if this keeps happening

Yet the ecv stayed home for 4 months and are again for a month.

So many people seem to think the rules don't apply to them.

It's not all the bad wit some schools. Mine had live lessons online with live chat facilities. They also could DM their friends on the school system.

Yes you do! We did it with an 8 and 5 year old over half-term. It was awful, but necessary. We do have a garden though so they were able to play there.

We are doing it with our 8 year old at the moment. Rules are we don’t go out so we don’t. Simple! I’m not putting others at risk no matter how much she would like to go out.

@NerrSnerr

The NHS says try to avoid contact with family members as much as possible so not a 'you must isolate away from your family'.

It would seem @JuliaJohnston has a special website where the order is that a child sent home from school for a case in their year group needs to be in their bedroom alone for two weeks.

I’m on tenterhooks!

The elderly and vulnerable should shield themselves and children's education and wellbeing should be a priority

They are trying to keep schools open. The elderly and vulnerable still need to come in contact with people. What if they have school age children, do their education and wellbeing matter? What about the carers? Where do their children go when they're caring? Their families? It's not as simple as saying lock up the vulnerable so everyone else can get on with it.

Cannot believe the number of people being so blasé about this. They wouldn't ask you to self isolate if it wasn't important. The fact that your DC have no symptoms doesn't mean they don't have it.I had it in March and am still suffering from long covid. It's not a game, it's not asking much. Isolating means just that. Isolating by yourself. Not taking your DC to the supermarket or out and about with other DC. If your child cannot isolate away from the rest of the family then the whole household should isolate. When you are out on your lovely walk with your 'isolating' child and you touch things then other people could rich them after you - gates etc, if your dc is a symptomatic they can pass it on. It's dangerous and a killer. You might no ok but the granny of the person you pass it onto might not survive it. The level of selfishness is mind blowing and is precisely why the country is in lockdown/variations of lockdown.

AltJ, I'm really fucking angry for the kids too.

I don't know what the answer is because it's not on to ask vulnerable people to isolate for a year.

But equally, it's so shit for kids, especially the very young ones who don't understand what's happening and all they know is their suddenly in the house all the time and they can't see their friends or play at the park.

So for that reason, I'll stand outside my front door on my deserted residential street and let my 4yo scoot up and down the path for 15 minutes without touching anything because there's a limit, a real fucking limit, to what I can put up with on behalf of my children after this shitty year of being stuck in the house with working parents for months on end.

We haven’t had long time to self isolate, but ds1 did real well self isolating. He had long daily baths with toys, extra time on the kindle and we made our own board game (that took him nearly a day to decorate and write down the questions and answers on the cards). Come to think of it, I should really either hide it or bin to fill another day of self isolating.

My 3 year old got asked to isolate from nursery due to a positive however, the letter said 'we recommend you isolate' not that she had to. We didn't find out had to until day 5 of the isolation so kept her in until day 8 then took her for walks to remote woodland. We are lucky enough to be on the doorstep of a huge forest and know the quiet spots so didn't see anybody. I wouldn't have taken her anywhere like a park though only outdoors where nobody would come close.

@AltJ
Also we are in a full national lockdown. Vulnerable and elderly people shouldn't be out interacting with random children.
The elderly and vulnerable should shield themselves and children's education and wellbeing should be a priority.
My ds (10) is medically vulnerable and at home from school at the moment - we go for walks (not into town or shops), a few times a week. Are you seriously telling me that after staying in and shielding completely for months, and complying with the rules of self isolating 3 times...he shouldn't go for a walk...that he should be the one that stays in rather than someone who has been in contact, and can't be arsed to follow the rules, because it is oh so very hard and oh so very unfair?

I agree with @AltJ
We were all horrified during the Spanish lockdown when children were kept inside for weeks and weeks. No fresh air or exercise. We were so pleased that our government hadn’t taken it that far and accepted the risks from daily walks were miniscule.

Yet now, by stealth we are doing the same. With no science to back it up. No science that justified the huge impact this will have on their physical and metal health.

Nobody is mixing household, nobody should be taking their kids to the supermarket. But do we still think they are going to spread the virus during a quiet walk? It’s strange we have all bought in to this.

@JuliaJohnston

You're making yourself look a bit of a tit, JRose, bless you 😁 If I managed to google the requirements I presume you can too. But maybe I'm giving you too much credit?

You can’t find it can you?

@Ihearthounds
"It's not all about their wants. ' Too right it's not. Who gives a toss about what children and young people want or need?
We will force them to sacrifice everything they have because we are selfish and we will declare them selfish if they complain even though they are the ones making the biggest sacrifices and all for the sake of others who treat them with scorn."

Bit dramatic just asking people to stay inside for a few days hardly sending them off to battle

It’s not a few days is it though. On another thread one person was on their 8th week of self isolating for their child. 8 weeks!

Yes, 14 days in house and garden. We did this with our 8 year old. As did our entire year group. As per government instructions.

@Thurlow

AltJ, I'm really fucking angry for the kids too.

I don't know what the answer is because it's not on to ask vulnerable people to isolate for a year.

But equally, it's so shit for kids, especially the very young ones who don't understand what's happening and all they know is their suddenly in the house all the time and they can't see their friends or play at the park.

So for that reason, I'll stand outside my front door on my deserted residential street and let my 4yo scoot up and down the path for 15 minutes without touching anything because there's a limit, a real fucking limit, to what I can put up with on behalf of my children after this shitty year of being stuck in the house with working parents for months on end.

Trying not to sound cold, but why isn't it OK to ask the vulnerable to isolate for a year?

It's shit for them yes, but that way they are safe. How is it fair to my year old to be denied an education, socialising with friends and the freedom we all had as children, to avoid catching an illness that barely affects children.

My DD is having nightmares, wants to constantly wash her hands, keeps askng when I'll die, if she wll die. She's terrified of something that she has already had!

My Dad has cancer, he is cheerfully self isolating. He doesn't expect the schools to close and sobbing children be locked in their bedrooms so he can have a nice wander round a garden centre.

Also your remote walk you cannot guarantee no one will be there , you may come across someone who has same thoughts as you
Yes mh is important but some aren't even trying a couple days
The longer this goes on the more it will affect kids , maybe of people followed the guidelines we could get some more freedoms back sooner

@Delatron but they arent being kept in for weeks its 2 weeks

@jocktamsonsbairn - that’s not the rules though. Only the child has to isolate on close contact. The rest of the family can go out as normal unless anyone starts with symptoms. I know many people doing the school run with their isolating child locked in the car as they have no other option. Child does remain in the car though.

I dont think anyone on here is suggesting going shopping with an isolating child. But particularly those without gardens, an early morning walk isn’t going to kill granny. Outdoor transmission is really really low. So long as parents are very careful to keep well apart from others. I’d drive up onto the moors from here. You barely see anyone. Def would not be putting anyone at risk!

@timeforanewstart not for many who are on their third or fourth period of isolating?

This could go on for months. How many weeks do we think it’s acceptable to keep kids inside for?

@Delatron it wouldn't be 8 weeks in one go though would it as they had to go out to get in contact again
And maybe if all had followed rules the numbers locally would be down so less isolations all around