Do you really keep DC indoors for 14 days?

[notevenat20]

DS's school year has been sent home for 14 days because someone in his year has covid. I know we are supposed to keep him indoors the whole time. But what have people really done in practice? It's a very long time not to walk further than the bathroom.

@Excitablemuch

I wonder what messages children are getting when they are allowed to flout the law because they don’t want to do as they are asked.

Mine are 2 and 4, they don’t know what the law is, they don’t even know what covid is.

@LondonJax

How is it fair *@AltJ* that my DS's classmate has to do alternate days in school because, as a type one diabetic, she is also a vulnerable child? She knows that, should she get Covid, she could be very ill indeed. She's been doing that since September and will have to continue like it until this is over or a vaccine found.

Or you can talk to my friend who has an auto immune disease. And a year 8 child. What gets sacrificed first - her health or her child's?

Or my child who has a heart condition but is in school because his consultant says it's OK. I trust his school to do right by him. I don't trust the parents of some of the kids because they seem to think their needs come before everyone elses.

But, of course, we can always shield for a year - because only the old are vulnerable...

Well as most children are asymptomatic, it's going to go round schools anyway.

If someone is extremely vulnerable, they shouldn't assume that no positive tests = no risk of covid.

Many children don't seem to get any symptoms from Covid, so if you absolutely can't come into contact with Covid, then no, you shouldn't be at school. But this is very few children who have significant health needs.

I don't see how my children going out for a daily walk while self isolating would affect any of the people you have mentioned. But not doing so causes massive distress for my children.

@notevenat20

A friend whose DC are at a posh London school wern't told their DC had to stay indoors. I guess you get what you pay for.

It’s nothing to do with the school, it’s what the government have said you need to do. If anything the private school are not providing the correct info so you ‘aren’t getting what you pay for’!

@Juliajohnston thats the thing isn't it , if they pass it in it does keep
Going back to schools and then you end up with 3/4 isolations periods
I do get why people on 2/3rd isolations in quick succession though would go out later or early when no ones around if lucky to live somewhere where possible and they may have to think about this with kids being sent home several times

FFS we are not sending them off to war. I think the real issue is that it's an inconvenience for parents who do not want to be stuck indoors with an isolating DC.

@JuliaJohnston

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@notevenat20

A friend whose DC are at a posh London school wern't told their DC had to stay indoors. I guess you get what you pay for.

Nothing to do with going to a posh school. As the rules aren’t set up by. The school but by the government/LA. What this means is that the school didn’t feel the need to repeat the rules/guidance. I imagine this was already. Explained before hand.

My DS only needed to isolate for 8 days but yes he stayed indoors the entire time. He's only 10 i was quite impressed how maturely he handled it not once did he complain but equally enjoyed a full day in the fresh air once it ended.
I totally get where pp are coming from though I think children have suffered the most during all this, they were kept indoors and away from their peers for months, lost valuable education time, repeatedly having to completely isolate, exams cancelled, older children leaving school into mass unemployment and no doubt it will be our children's generation that end up paying back all the furlough and grants back in the future with higher taxes. All this for this for something that largely doesn't affect them directly yet they take some of the biggest burdens now and in their future. We need to give more credit to our children who from what I have seen have been so brilliant and resilient throughout all this

I think the real issue is that it's an inconvenience for parents who do not want to be stuck indoors with an isolating DC.

Yep pretty much.

I live in a flat with a 2 year old and a 9 month old, I dont know how we would cope with 2 weeks with no walks. I dont think we would be able to, if we had a garden I'd definitely stay in home and garden

I don't see how my children going out for a daily walk while self isolating would affect any of the people you have mentioned. But not doing so causes massive distress for my children.

It's just hard to believe that everyone who said they're going on scooters or for walks when they should be isolating are not coming into contact with anyone, not touching anything. It's hard to believe that there are no dog walkers, runners, other self isolation dodgers.

@Thurlow

AltJ - I don't know, I just feel it isn't right. Their mental health matters just as much. But I also know it isn't right to restrict so many other millions of people, especially children. I wish there was a sodding answer that helped.

I'm sorry about your DD. I wish there was a way to protect the young and the vulnerable at the same time.

Thanks

I hope she will be ok. We've put a ban on hand washing unless eating/using the loo and me and DH have eaten a few slices of toast that have been dropped on the floor to prove that it won't kill you.

I think the more experienced you are with Covid the more realistic you are. I worked on a ward where elderly people with diabetes, dementia and lung disease had COvid and were fine. Also saw people in their 50s dying, but it's not an automatic death sentence, and I think people have lost their minds a bit.

I was in hospital with flu a few years ago, flu is very serious to a child with diabetes and yet most people don't bother getting a flu jab and go to work with it!

We take DC (2 and 4) out when isolating because of nursery/school bubble closure. Either for a drive without getting out of car or for a walk or cycle somewhere very quiet with no other people.

@CarrieBlue

Yes. My teen DS stayed in his room or the playroom, used a separate bathroom and ate separately to the rest of the family. I think he popped outside in the garden a couple of times but otherwise he isolated. Not pleasant for him or for us but that’s what we were told to do.

This is so so sad. You made him eat separately? Are any of you very high risk? This must have had such a huge effect on his mental health. How sad

So @AltJ my DS's friend should isolate for a year because she is vulnerable? But your kids can't for 14 days because it's detrimental to their mental health and causes them distress. Obviously having an illness means your mental health is somehow immune from being harmed in any way by isolating. Or, of course, kids could be taught that this is just the way the world is at the moment and we'll get out of it quicker if people pulled together.

@NotAKaren

FFS we are not sending them off to war. I think the real issue is that it's an inconvenience for parents who do not want to be stuck indoors with an isolating DC.

Mine is on day 12 of isolation. Doesn’t make much difference to me, I still have to take my other child to school etc and can still go for runs early morning/evening. It’s shit for her though. We’re following the rules (genuinely assumed everyone was, how naive of me ) but a scoot round the block in the early morning would do her the world of good. I run at around 7am and don’t encounter anyone so technically she could come and there would be no risk. Anyway it’s irrelevant as we’re following the rules and she’s nearly done, but the fact that I don’t want to be stuck indoors with her wouldn’t be my motivation for breaking the rules if I was to do so.

We had to isolate over half term and it was sad but we did it. Lots of dd's class didn't do it though and went out

@RedskyAtnight

Where? Where does it say a child needs to be isolated from his parents in his own home

In the main government coronavirus guidelines as I said.
Here's the relevant bit, to avoid you having to go and search for it.

"It is very important that people with COVID-19 symptoms or a positive test result stay at home and avoid contact with other household members as much as possible."

(unless we are back to the discussion about whether a child counts as a person)

You are mistaken. That's for people who have tested positive or have symptoms, NOT fir those who are isolating due to someone else having symptoms or testing positive.

Why is it if a thread starts with an husband who is abusive ( of any type ) bit the op says the DH has mental health issues everyone says mental health is no excuse to be a cunt.

When it comes to covid people will happily ignore all the rules and guidance to keep people safe and designed to keep schools open (which everyone agrees is important) because "mental health"

@TibetanTerrier

It's not about their health for heaven's sake! It's about protecting other people from your children because they could be carrying the virus.

But their health is important to me.

@AltJ some of those very vunerable may not be at school and there parents may think i know lets go
Somewhere really quiet where we won't bump into anyone so my child can get out as they haven't been able to return to school or other activities since march ,but they get there and someone who couldn't do 14 days is also gone to that remote quiet place
Like i said i get those on 3/4 th lot but some are claiming they can't do 14 days and its likely less if near a positive case as takes time for the result so more likely 10- 11 days

My DC were asked to stay off school with no requirement to self isolate as a precautionary measure, they still went out to exercise once the school day was over. If they have to self isolate it'll be the house and garden only. Staying at home means staying at home, it's not rocket science.

@RedskyAtnight

Where? Where does it say a child needs to be isolated from his parents in his own home

In the main government coronavirus guidelines as I said.
Here's the relevant bit, to avoid you having to go and search for it.

"It is very important that people with COVID-19 symptoms or a positive test result stay at home and avoid contact with other household members as much as possible."

(unless we are back to the discussion about whether a child counts as a person)

I think this thread is about kids who are isolating because of a positive case in their class at school, not kids who have tested positive or who have symptoms.

Yep kept them indoors. They rob ably could have gone in the garden but weather was bad so they didn’t. (Garden is big and in the middle they would be 2 m from either side)