Boris self isolating

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After contact with a MP who has tested positive

Swg1 I happily stand corrected and agree

@tobee

Surely Boris Johnson can perfectly easily perform PMQs by zoom?

Yes, of course he can, others isolating just wfh as normal, no excuse to miss doing anything, he has a proper office as well, it's not like he has to have little Wilfred bawling in the background.

@donquixotedelamancha

Oh my god, what will the country do without his leadership?

Actually.....thinking about it, never mind.

😁😁

One news article states he was with the MP who has tested positive for 25 minutes but they were socially distanced. I thought in that case you didn’t need to isolate as you weren’t considered a close contact? Isn’t that the whole point of the 2m rule?
Please correct me if I’m wrong.

I wonder if this will even more make people’s trust in Boris decrease even further...

First Dominic Cummings doesn’t need to follow the rules.

And now Boris doesn’t need to follow the rules.

I’m watching Kay Burley (who I don’t really like) and she’s laying into Nick Hancock’s about why Boris and the other MP weren’t wearing masks when they are in indoors and clearly less than 2m apart.

Nick is squirming......

I almost feel sorry for him.

Exactly, so if they are indoors and not following the 2m rule why do they keep telling us to. All seems such convenient timing.

He has said he is self isolating as although he was social distancing that is the track and trace rules. Ok how come when someone in work tested positive we were told we (everyone in the close, small office) we dont have to isolate as we had been social distancing. Honestly don't understand it

He has said he is self isolating as although he was social distancing that is the track and trace rules.

“He said he was social distancing...”

He wasn’t though - as the photo of him and the MP together shows.

He’s dug himself a hole....

@WhatAWonderfulWorldd

He has said he is self isolating as although he was social distancing that is the track and trace rules. Ok how come when someone in work tested positive we were told we (everyone in the close, small office) we dont have to isolate as we had been social distancing. Honestly don't understand it

Exactly. This is why some people are so confused by the rules. Its not because they are stupid (as some posters reckon), or because the rules are difficult to follow, but because they appear to change all the time depending on who is involved. Which then gives the impression that the people who made the rules don't bloody know either.

He just lies and lies and lies - he is a truly contemptible excuse of a man. It really doesn't matter what he does now the damage is well and truly done. Pundits are already writing his political obituary -but medically he will be fine of that I have no doubt. Infected or no.

Martin Wolf in the Ft opines - since Sunak seems ready and eager in the wings - can't he just fuck off and put some adults in charge?

"A vaccine may rescue the UK from the Covid-19 disaster. But the mess Mr Johnson has made in managing the pandemic is staggering: the endless changes of mind; the confused strategy; and the absurd boasting. Mr Johnson’s assertion, to take a notorious example, that the UK would have a “world-beating” test and trace system by June 1 is on a par with his assertion that it will “prosper mightily” without an EU trade deal. Neither has any grounding in reality. The testing and tracing system is still not working successfully. Shamefully, the UK has the highest total Covid mortality rate of all the high-income countries, after Belgium and Spain.

Mr Johnson is not a serious man. He is unlikely ever to govern competently. Even if the government’s mentality of “move fast and break things” ends with the exit of Dominic Cummings, that will not change. Mr Johnson has already broken big things that cannot be put back together again. This has made him a truly important politician, but a damaging one, alas."

Boris Johnson has definitely already had Coronavirus. He should just do an antibody test and if he has antibodies, crack on. Or does he expect people who are vaccinated in the future to self isolate! Are we going to be self isolating forever?

It was my understanding though that the vaccine doesn’t stop infection or transference - it just prevents the infected person getting very ill with it.

I imagine antibodies do the same??

So although he/vaccinated people are very unlikely to get ill if they get infected, they can still pass it on to others, therefore still need to isolate.

That was my understanding?

More than happy to be corrected

Thoughts with all those tory-donor, corporate-sponsored hi-viz jackets & helmets that will hang unused in 'red-wall' marginal portacabins.

For those who are interested, a recent update to the app, reduced the risk score for triggering an alert, in response to the increased incidence of Covid in the community. Risk score for isolation, based on both proxomity and time spent with a positive case, was initially set at 900, that has now been reduced to 120.

www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/10/29/nhs-covid-19-app-warn-users-self-isolate/

More people therefore will now be asked to isolate, in order to help reduce community transmission.

Or does he expect people who are vaccinated in the future to self isolate!

Almost certainly, yes. There is no data as yet on whether you are still able to infect others.
It is not the primary endpoint of the clinical trials that are ongoing and I would imagine requires further trials to demonstrate.

Boris Johnson has definitely already had Coronavirus. He should just do an antibody test and if he has antibodies, crack on.
Clearly he has had tests as he stated in a video on twitter, shown on TV, that he has lots of antibodies. However, as a PP stated, that doesn't stop him from passing the virus on to others.

He does intend to crack on by conducting Govt business by video conferencing.

When you say crack on maybe it should be following orders from Carrie without fail and prioritise Dilan the dog where necessary. His 14 days self-isolating will probably come as a relief in comparison as he mutes her whilst nodding his head in feign sympathy at her latest 'intervention'. If it didn't have tragic consequences for the country it would be funny.

Sadly it is anything but ...meanwhile in other news as to the goverment's competency www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54908129

@WhatAWonderfulWorldd

He has said he is self isolating as although he was social distancing that is the track and trace rules. Ok how come when someone in work tested positive we were told we (everyone in the close, small office) we dont have to isolate as we had been social distancing. Honestly don't understand it

They are putting profits ahead of your health. 2m is meaningless if you're in a small, unventilated space with some who is contagious, because the virus spreads through the air.

“ previous exposure to SARS-CoV-2 might not guarantee total immunity in all cases. All individuals, whether previously diagnosed with COVID-19 or not, should take identical precautions to avoid infection with SARS-CoV-2”.

But there must be a point when you are deemed 'reinfectable'. Otherwise two people in one household would theoretically be exposing each other for ever. You'd reset the counter each day and that's clearly not how it works.

Piers Morgan had it right this morning, he he said why can't Johnson take this seriously and stop blustering and waffling about butchers dogs and show some gravitas about what is happening. They clearly were not following the rules. They were maskless, indoors and standing a couple of feet, not metres away from each other in the photo.

Johnson has to be called out on his empty waffle and called to account at some point- surely?

He really is worse than you can ever imagine - but no his boss of 20 years did warn us all. But hey Jeremy Corbyn. Please, Johnson, resign soonest and let your successor try and dig us out of this hole you have put us all in. Rishi is chomping at the bit so fall on your sword before others thrust many into your bloated torso.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

I've seen the picture of Boris doing his "I'm grand" bit today and he has that same forced, leery, puffy look he had last time he had it. He's either physically exhausted, or he has covid again, unfortunately.

Probably just run down and hammering the claret again. Even his catch phrase has negative allusions.

The phrase “as fit as a butcher’s dog” means a person is extremely fit and healthy even in a challenging situation. In fact, the allusion shows that a butcher’s dog is given meat and scraps of meat after an animal was slain and sold. The dogs may even be overweight by eating all the scraps and not necessarily fit.

literarydevices.net/as-fit-as-a-butchers-dog/

Hey namesake @vera99 we seem to agree on the poor choice of waffle.

He looks like shite, he's talking bollocks. and yes, he rarely has an original thought.

Having seen tonights Dispatches im not wondering why he is self isolating.