Anyone seen evidence of onward transmission in schools when a bubble pops?

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As title really. You can get a class isolating because of one person testing positive. Has anyone had this and found more children have been infected form that case? I'm particularly interested in Primary school

3 times now but in secondary. Starts with one child testing positive and then a few days later symptoms in other students then a few positive tests. Didn't happen every time we had to isolate a bubble (we have now had nearly 40 positive results) and 1 instance could have come from a party we know that happened but the parents denied and blamed school.

Yes in primary this week. Bubble popped them 3 additional children tested positive after about a week.

Hmm not great but I guess if average classes are 30 then it's not so bad if you get 2 or 3 cases from one positive pupil as opposed to the whole class becoming ill.

2 children in my child's class (Y2) have isolated due to parents testing positive, one of which my child sits next to! I don't know if my child was ever exposed by either of these children being infectious and asymptomatic before parents tested but we've only had mild colds in our household and my college age teen has had a tummy bug.

Getting more nervous as the weeks go on and transmission is rising in my town.

2 year groups sent home at DS's primary before half term, in both cases it was just one pupil. No other pupils or staff caught it. No cases in staff so far.

Yes, member of staff positive and then 5 kids have since tested positive whilst in isolation. Primary.

@supposeItCouldBeMe all 5 of those children could likely have caught it from the same adult.

DS’s class (primary) sent home to isolate in September. Member of staff in the bubble tested positive. No one else did. Everyone back in school after the two weeks were up.

Our school (primary) had to close 1 bubble due to 1 positive case but no other child in that bubble had symptoms. 2 teachers from 2 completely different bubbles started having symptoms half way through the October holiday (we only had one week) and tested positive and they are certain it was picked up in school but no children in their classes had symptoms (that we know of).
At my daughters’ school (also primary) year 5 and year 6 had to isolate a week before half term due to several staff members testing positive and during that week and over the half term holiday, several children also tested positive.

I think it happened in my son's Yr 4 class.
Child A developed Covid symptoms but a home test was negative. 7 days later child B, who sits next to child A developed Covid symptoms and tested positive
Child B had no contact outside of their family apart from school.
I strongly suspect that the home test wasn't done properly because it is quite uncomfortable and who likes doing that to their child.
No proof at all though

Primary has shut two bubbles. Bubble bubble 1: first case was a teacher abs it spread to the other adults and a few children. Bubble 2: first case was a child and no further transmission.

64 children and 4 adults isolated after a bubble burst at my DC's primary following a positive test in one of the children. No one else tested positive.

I've posted these before, it's not getting picked up by the national press but the local papers are reporting.

One secondary with 35 positive cases including some in other years.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/secondary-pupils-isolating-after-35-19080703

One primary where they had to shut as it spread like wildfire.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/headteacher-warns-parents-over-lesser-19102778

There are more. These are just examples.

Yes, with symptoms. Cases of adults and children infecting others in school.

No when it was 2 asymptomatic, but was possibly caught early. They'd both been in v close contact with a confirmed case hence the tests. They'd been in class when infectious but hadn't passed it on.

I agree that local press do detail this more.

I'm worried about how my dd's school is handling this. A boy in one of her classes has it. The kids sitting near him have been told to self isolate. Everyone else is carrying on as normal. School haven't even let parents know - this is all from dd. Is this right?! Seems to defeat the bubble system.

It is very hard to decide to test but as the Manchester report shows, some symptoms in children are not the usual ones.

@RuffleCrow

I'm worried about how my dd's school is handling this. A boy in one of her classes has it. The kids sitting near him have been told to self isolate. Everyone else is carrying on as normal. School haven't even let parents know - this is all from dd. Is this right?! Seems to defeat the bubble system.

Is it secondary? It's mostly run by phe advice. They ask about seating plans and timings etc and make decisions based on local rates. They advise the school.

More cases will probably trigger different responses.

Yes, member of staff positive and then 5 kids have since tested positive whilst in isolation. Primary.
And that could easily be the poor teacher catching it off an asymptomatic child who should be isolating, because a family member has it, but has been sent to school anyway.
I am self isolating from today, because of a child who was in school the day before a positive test. The child developed symptoms the evening he went home from school. A family member already has it. I strongly suspect he should not have been in school.

[quote HelloitsmeMargaret]@supposeItCouldBeMe all 5 of those children could likely have caught it from the same adult.[/quote]
Yep, that is our assumption. Worth noting that it took longer than a fortnight to manifest in some of the children, or at least they were tested after a fortnight of isolation.

Oh yes, children are definitely being sent in while parents are waiting for tests or even positive.

I know of cases where that's happened and heard of many more from other teachers.

I don't know if it's deliberately done or lack of understanding.

@Nuffaluff the purpose of the react testing is to understand asymptotic cases. That absolutely did for the older teens and young adults but hasn't shown the same spread in younger children.

Having said that it doesn't change the fact the kids you talk about should be at home isolating.

Yes, secondary. Call me strange, but seeing as it's all anyone ever talks about, I was expecting to be notified when kids in her "year group bubble" came down with it. We're in a lower transmission area but i doubt it will stay that way for long with this approach. And just in time for christmas, probably.