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Does anyone know if the new vaccine was trialled on cross section?

17 replies

20mum · 10/11/2020 20:36

I've seen young healthy people who took part in the trial being interviewed and saying the side effects of the vaccine are like an extreme version of a hangover, which to them is a short lived, horrible but bearable experience. But after health care workers, the first priority group will be old people. Will they manage with those side effects? What about disabled people, or children?

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wohmum · 10/11/2020 20:37

I’d heard it was trialled on a wide range of ages and nationalities

minipie · 10/11/2020 20:37

Presumably it hasn’t been tested on more vulnerable people yet. I would assume it will be, before being rolled out. Though I don’t know how easy it will be to find volunteers in those categories...

FuzzyPuffling · 10/11/2020 20:43

Trialled in many countries, age range between 12-85, I believe.

monkeytennis97 · 10/11/2020 20:44

Dr John Campbell said on his video today that '42% were from diverse backgrounds'

AlphaJura · 10/11/2020 20:44
WrongKindOfFace · 10/11/2020 20:46

I’d presume they’d manage better than they’d manage the actual virus.

ramblingsonthego · 10/11/2020 20:47

Where we (husband and I) have been going for the trial (novavax) there is a vast agenda range. A lot of 70+ but we do live in an older population area. There is a minimum of 500 of the local population tested here and that is being replicated across the country. Also husband is clinically vulnerable due to medication.

Duckwit · 10/11/2020 20:48

I don't think they are planning on giving it to kids are they?

raviolidreaming · 10/11/2020 20:59

Of course it's trialled on a cross section. I mean, do you honestly think nobody would have thought of this, or that ethics committees wouldn't have some questions if it wasn't?

raviolidreaming · 10/11/2020 21:01

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52760871

Phase 2 of the Oxford trial included over 70s and five to 12-year-olds.

ForBlueSkies · 10/11/2020 21:12

As far as I’ve read Pfizer have not released that information yet.

MollyButton · 10/11/2020 21:28

From what I read on an extensive twitter thread:
all the vaccines are being tested on a cross section of ages etc. The side effects seem to get milder with age, but it is also possible the effectiveness will be lower too with age, so older people might need a bigger dose. Boosters are also likely.
The real possibility is that side effects might be worse in children - so more like flu than a bit of a headache.
There is also a possibility that whilst they reduce illness, they might allow transmission.
And the West isn't really investigating the vaccines that will work best on the upper respiratory tract as opposed to lower. (So the vaccines being developed in India and China might be better long term).

Oh and the Russian vaccine being used after stage II is unethical.

ForBlueSkies · 10/11/2020 21:28

I take that back:

Pfizer last month scaled up its trial to about 44,000 participants, from up to 30,000, to enroll people as young as 16 and those with chronic, stable HIV, hepatitis C and hepatitis B.

The trial, which is being conducted in four countries including the United States, has enrolled 37,864 participants as of Monday, with 42% overall participants from ages 56 to 85.

www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-pfizer-idUSL4N2H43GP

Which is great news.

RunningFromInsanity · 10/11/2020 21:30

Who would volunteer their 5 year old child for a vaccine trial??

ramblingsonthego · 10/11/2020 21:33

@RunningFromInsanity

Who would volunteer their 5 year old child for a vaccine trial??
My (then) 9 year old took part in a swine flu vaccine trial. There were 2 vaccines available and they wanted to know which worked better on children. These vaccines were already in general circulation though and this was purely to see if one had better immunity than the other.
AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 11/11/2020 09:31

@monkeytennis97

Dr John Campbell said on his video today that '42% were from diverse backgrounds'
So 58% were young, white, healthy and male?
CaptainMyCaptain · 11/11/2020 09:34

My friend's Dad took part in the trials. He is in his 80s.

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