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AIBU to want my workplace to be safer?

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BootyBay · 04/11/2020 06:15

NC for this in case my employer is on here.

I work for a relatively small company with about 100 full-time staff and around 50 part-time staff on site. We are a customer-facing company and apart from a few back-office staff are dealing with a few hundred clients face to face every day.

In times of Covid, I am not feeling that enough thought has been put into making our workplace safer.

  1. No PPE has been provided; we were all given a window of about 5 days to get our own face coverings made to company specification (a certain colour, two layers min) so many of us who had already got some face coverings needed to find the specific ones with very little notice.
  1. The only "protection" we have is a bit of tape on the floor, which, in many cases, is less than 2m away from where our customers sit facing us. The company have said it's the best they can do because there is only so much physical room available.
  1. Even though we can wear face masks if we wish (and do so in communal areas like the staff canteen), this is strongly discouraged when we actually deal with our customers. Our employer argues that it hinders effective communication and better sales are made if customers can see our faces because non-verbal communication is so much clearer and more persuasive.
  1. There is no upper limit on the amount of customers indoors; we can each deal with anything from 5 to 35 people in the waiting area - and waits are long; they last, on average, an hour, but can sometimes be up to two hours. That means each customer-facing member of staff is in a room with many clients, very few of whom wear masks indoors as they don't have to (it is specifically stated that they can remove masks once they have passed through the entrance).
  1. Our customers often don't socially distance at all. While there are physical restrictions that make 2m social distancing impossible indoors, many brush past each other in order to look at items, often sharing their use without a second thought given to cleaning items first before passing them on. I have witnessed a number of customers tapping others on shoulders or backs to get their attention and sometimes they huddle over the same items to get a closer look. Our employer say they can't afford more items to be put on the shop floor during sales hours.
  1. Staff move offices regularly. We have nowhere to keep our personal items, so have to take them and our sales equipment with us when facing customers. We often end up in 3-5 different offices over the course of the day to deal with customers.
  1. Naturally, customers are getting annoyed. We are having to deal with verbal abuse regularly and on occasion items have been thrown and fights broken out, which we had to intervene with as security is sparse and can take up to 20mins to cross site to get to us. We only have 1 member of security staff on duty to cover all of our offices.

AIBU to say that these conditions are not safe? What can my employer do? Should we continue working in those conditions?

OP posts:
PrincessForADay · 04/11/2020 08:43

What do you want from this thread OP?

Burnthurst187 · 04/11/2020 08:52

I thought this was a genuine post but it seems to be somebody being a dick

If it is a genuine post then the least I would expect from the employer is a clear plastic screen like at checkouts

matchingsocks · 04/11/2020 08:57

Brothel??

Nottherealslimshady · 04/11/2020 09:03

Report them. They're not making reasonable adjustments. They definitely should not be encouraging customers to take their masks off inside! It will be your council you need to call I think.

VainAbigail · 04/11/2020 09:07

@Nottherealslimshady it’s a school! Read the comments.

Hardbackwriter · 04/11/2020 09:08

Well this has really got you the support you wanted, OP...

Schuyler · 04/11/2020 09:16

@Hardbackwriter

Well this has really got you the support you wanted, OP...
Indeed.

I am married to a teacher and really want schools to be safer places for all but there’s a minority on here who go about it in the wrong way. You’re playing right into the hands of the teacher haters - well done, you! Not the way to get support from those of us who genuinely do support you.

museumum · 04/11/2020 09:19

So if you were a 'sales' business selling high end cars or jewellery or clothes i'd say shut the doors and go on furlough, nobody needs a car or whatever that much right now and your employer is not entitled to a profit for shareholders.

But, if as pp's have said you are making a laboured point about teaching then it's NOT THE SAME because children have a universal human right to an education and your employer is not a profit-making company (although I admit that I'm not entirely up to speed with English system and maybe some state schools are run for the benefit of shareholders?)

What do you suggest they do about some of these points? the line on the floor? the waiting? ask the kids to stand outside? put up marquees in the playground? I DO agree with those who say that there shouldn't be rules against taking reasonable covid-safety steps I think you'd get a HUGE amount more support if you just identified individual things that are specifically banned but would solve the issue rather than just saying 'nobody cares, we're cannon fodder' etc etc.

BootyBay · 05/11/2020 18:06

So, interesting responses. Especially one person saying something along the lines of "I thought this was genuine". Thing is, it IS genuine. My workplace doesn't matter, risks to staff are the same, whether clients are 5 or 50.

Covid has finally reached staff in the workplace. We have been informed with a delay of several DAYS that some staff are off with a positive test and yet it has taken DAYS for this to trickle through, rooms to close and be deep-cleaned. By now many more could be infected. It's the sad reality of what is going on and it is even sadder seeing how easily people are being thrown under the bus, because "oh, it's just..."

It is one thing agreeing that change is necessary, but quite another to go "oh well" and pretend that this isn't happening across the country right now for the sake of the economy.

OP posts:
RivkaMumsnet · 05/11/2020 18:44

We are going to move this one to the Covid board shortly.

flumposie · 05/11/2020 20:25

Yes children have a right to education. Staff also have a right to be safe in their workplace. One doesn't outweigh the other. What we would like is masks in communal places ( only made mandatory yesterday!) , extra funding from the government to fund cleaning, sanitisers , laptops and equipment for remote learning( once again money has been found for furlough but none is offered to schools!). Also perhaps smaller class sizes due to part time rotas. There, plenty of suggestions for those people saying teachers never offer solutions.

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