Infection sources

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Does have anyone know of any statistics that say WHERE people are mostly catching COVID-19? By which I mean the circumstances? Is it pubs? Schools? Family gatherings? Shopping? Workplaces? Is this in fact known by Public Health England (or the equivalent bodies)? We know certain geographical areas have worse rates but how and where is it being spread?

Anyone?

Someone posted a pie chart here this week. Sorry, can’t remember which thread. I think it was from a Gov website and seemed to be updated weekly.

PHE has stats... but they treat a few places such as schools as complex environments so not in the same chart with the simple places like homes. Complex means that there is high chance of exposure there but also there's high chance of exposure in lots of other places in the person's life. A school age child spends 2/3 of their waking time outside of school environments, so can be hard to say where they got covid: home is still most likely but also... social life? arcade? park? School?

Similar for someone who works in a hospital. Did they get covid there or from their social life or from their housemates...

Thanks both for the replies.

The pie chart suggested mainly schools/universities and work

Wow, hospitals only 6% compared to care homes 26%

The pie chart was produced by hospitality industry.

Pie chart produced by Hospitality union using data provided by public health England.

How many infections within homes or residential settings in comparison? Need raw numbers in that case, too.

Plus I think a lot of infections are 'unknown' origin. Need at least a count of them to put all in perspective about "sources"

I asked the question mainly because I was wondering why a blanket lockdown if, for example, pubs are the problem, not shopping in a shopping centre. Or whatever it may be. The data doesn’t really seem fine enough to me but I’m no statistician. I have so far managed to keep virus-free but then I can WFH and don’t have children back and fore in the house.

A lot of people probably won't know where they caught it if they've been to different places.

For example a friend has recently tested positive. She works from home but had been for a couple of meals out and visited a shop and the Post Office a few times in the two weeks before she got ill. So she must have got it from one of those places but just isn't sure where.

Exactly, the pie chart is for TRACEABLE infections, there is no figure on how many are traceable, and tbh, you’d expect nursing homes to be ‘more’ traceable as the residents are significantly less mobile. Actually tracking down the exact location is difficult.

It’s like ‘schools’ is is the primary children doing the infecting or actually all the parents at collection time? I was shocked yesterday collecting my goddaughter, it was like the pandemic was long forgotten!!!

The answer is that they don't know where people get it because test and trace doesn't trace backwards. That's how T&T works in countries that have got on top of the virus.
What they have done is a survey to ask where people have been in the days leading up to infection. So those pie charts don't mean that someone definitely got infected in school / pub/ shop just that they had visited those places.