It's just the flu

[notanoctopus]

Just got off the phone from a friend of mine ... it's just the flu and doesn't kill anyone not elderly without an underlying condition...aaagh!

Flu is actually very serious.

I know 2 people who have had Covid-19. Both had relatively "mild" cases but still were terribly unwell for 2+ weeks. Out of the 2, one friend has had to call an ambulance twice for chest pains & breathing difficulties since having the virus. The doctors haven't been able to totally pinpoint what's caused these 2 episodes but they're working on a theory that there might be underlying damage to his lungs or heart from Covid.
So even someone with a mild case can still be very ill & people can absolutely have long term effects afterwards.

I know 2 people who have had Covid-19. Both had relatively "mild" cases but still were terribly unwell for 2+ weeks. Out of the 2, one friend has had to call an ambulance twice for chest pains & breathing difficulties since having the virus. The doctors haven't been able to totally pinpoint what's caused these 2 episodes but they're working on a theory that there might be underlying damage to his lungs or heart from Covid.
So even someone with a mild case can still be very ill & people can absolutely have long term effects afterwards.

People forget that flu is potentially fatal aswell which is why so many are vaccinated each year for it. I find what people normally class as flu is generally just a bad cold because in reality actual flu can be really debilitating.

It has a similar IFR to flu.

Slightly higher but certainly no Ebola or AIDS before the therapies were introduced (AIDS had a 100% IFR for many years).

They are quite similar. Both nasty and kill people when they have compromised immune systems at very similar rates. It does seem covid is more infectious than flu though. Flu has almost disappeared in 2020 thanks to COVID

I'm not sure I'd class someone who was hospitalized twice as being a mild case!

I'm not sure I'd class someone who was hospitalized twice as being a mild case!

It has a similar IFR to flu.

No it doesn't:
mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1311764842160644096

It has a similar IFR to flu.

No it doesn't:
mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1311764842160644096

It has a similar IFR to flu.

No it doesn't:
mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1311764842160644096

It has a similar IFR to flu.

No it doesn't:
mobile.twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1311764842160644096

Had the flu at age 22. Never been so ill in all my life. Secondary pneumonia, lots of coughing up blood.

I was young, very slim and with no underlying. I had had a baby though a few months prior, so perhaps my immune system was low. Still though.... it really was very unpleasant.

www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

It seemingly does @CoffeeandCroissant

I don’t understand why people get so offended by the flu comments

Flu is bad. Flu kills.

What’s the problem in comparing one seasonal respiratory virus with another?

They clearly aren’t exactly the same but they are more similar than they are different

I don’t understand why people get so offended by the flu comments

Flu is bad. Flu kills.

What’s the problem in comparing one seasonal respiratory virus with another?

They clearly aren’t exactly the same but they are more similar than they are different

22MrsGradyOldLady

Just to add balance - I tested positive for covid 9 days ago and the only symptoms I've had have been loss of taste and smell. I'm pushing 50, unfit, and drink and smoke more than I should.

So yes, some people do suffer, but I haven't and neither has my partner who all tested positive despite having no symptoms at all.

My initial Covid symptoms were mild didn't feel terrible until 2 weeks in. Not meaning to worry, just being honest.

22MrsGradyOldLady

Just to add balance - I tested positive for covid 9 days ago and the only symptoms I've had have been loss of taste and smell. I'm pushing 50, unfit, and drink and smoke more than I should.

So yes, some people do suffer, but I haven't and neither has my partner who all tested positive despite having no symptoms at all.

My initial Covid symptoms were mild didn't feel terrible until 2 weeks in. Not meaning to worry, just being honest.

22MrsGradyOldLady

Just to add balance - I tested positive for covid 9 days ago and the only symptoms I've had have been loss of taste and smell. I'm pushing 50, unfit, and drink and smoke more than I should.

So yes, some people do suffer, but I haven't and neither has my partner who all tested positive despite having no symptoms at all.

My initial Covid symptoms were mild didn't feel terrible until 2 weeks in. Not meaning to worry, just being honest.

22MrsGradyOldLady

Just to add balance - I tested positive for covid 9 days ago and the only symptoms I've had have been loss of taste and smell. I'm pushing 50, unfit, and drink and smoke more than I should.

So yes, some people do suffer, but I haven't and neither has my partner who all tested positive despite having no symptoms at all.

My initial Covid symptoms were mild didn't feel terrible until 2 weeks in.

@hamstersarse

www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

It seemingly does @CoffeeandCroissant

That's a global estimate of IFR (from one study) and therefore not applicable to the UK. IFR is variable between countries according to their age structure so you can’t use a global estimate for local contexts.

As this Mathematician/epidemiologist at
the London school of hygiene and tropical medicine explains here:
mobile.twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1323183041255276544

Some kind of weird glitch in the Mumsnet matrix causing multiple posts.

Flu can also cause post-viral fatigue.
We could call it Long-Flu.

I'm not dismissing Long-Covid, just that post-viral fatigue from a variety of illnesses can often knock people for 6, 12 months, but it tends to be overlooked easily.

Glandular fever "yuppie flu" is another long running post-viral health issue that knocks people long term.

Some kind of weird glitch in the Mumsnet matrix causing multiple posts.

Flu can also cause post-viral fatigue.
We could call it Long-Flu.

I'm not dismissing Long-Covid, just that post-viral fatigue from a variety of illnesses can often knock people for 6, 12 months, but it tends to be overlooked easily.

Glandular fever "yuppie flu" is another long running post-viral health issue that knocks people long term.

@TheDailyCarbuncle

Flu discussions just make people look thick.

Flu has killed up to 685,000 people in a year, including small children and adults of all ages. It is a deadly illness, it's just that we don't panic about it and act like we're all doooomed and destroy the economy for it.

Flu regularly overwhelms hospitals - Cheshire and Merseyside issued 32 OPEL 4 alerts (the highest NHS alert that indicates care being seriously compromised) in the winter of 2017/18. Again no one gave a fuck, nothing was shut down, businesses weren't destroyed.

Yes covid isn't a flu, it's a coronavirus. But flu is serious and does cause deaths and serious problems in the health system. The fact that people didn't care about it before doesn't mean it wasn't an issue, it just means you weren't made to feel like the world was ending because of it.

Agree with this.

HAte seeing people say "just the flu" flu kills thousands in this country on an annual basis.