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If you're in a support bubble with someone who lives 3+ hours away...

34 replies

grenlei · 31/10/2020 23:01

I read the rules as saying you can't stay overnight - so basically we won't be able to see each other until 2 Dec?

(my support bubble is with my partner, we live 3-4 hours apart).

OP posts:
Movinghouse2015 · 31/10/2020 23:09

I've not read it that you can't stop over. However, the recommendation is that support bubbles should be local.

purpleme12 · 31/10/2020 23:18

You can stay overnight with your support bubble
Support bubbles are still allowed

solidaritea · 31/10/2020 23:31

Yeah, it's not clear. One part of the new guidance says you can stay overnight. But another part says to avoid non essential travel.

purpleme12 · 31/10/2020 23:33

It has been specified that there will be no change to support bubbles
That means you can stay overnight just as before

purpleme12 · 31/10/2020 23:34

The support bubble was always advised to be local but I guess there will always be some people who have their support bubble further away

grenlei · 31/10/2020 23:58

Thank you - I've reread the part in the rules around overnight stays now, in skim reading it I'd read it as not being allowed to stay with anyone in your support bubble, but I can see now that was the exception.

In practical terms we only see each other EOW so it will only be 2 trips in the lockdown period; we can't both live at the same house - we did consider it but he has a business to run which he can't do from here and I can't really leave my DC for a month (they're over 18 but only just).

OP posts:
movingonup20 · 01/11/2020 00:06

If your kids are over 18, you have options, I stocked the cupboards last time and went to dps, both had their bfs stay

Ellmau · 01/11/2020 00:08

It's not well written.

I'm my parents' bubble, and can only get there by public transport. I may just wait four weeks, but if it is extended, I'm not sure.

Barryisland · 01/11/2020 00:08

No.
It’s unnecessary travel.
And it’s staying overnight.
Both ‘not allowed’.

purpleme12 · 01/11/2020 00:15

@Barryisland

No. It’s unnecessary travel. And it’s staying overnight. Both ‘not allowed’.
This is not true you shouldn't comment if you haven't read or heard it properly Support bubbles can stay overnight at each other's houses this will not change when lockdown comes into effect. Support bubbles were and are advised to be local but there will be some people whose aren't local but as above support bubbles are allowed so they can travel there
purpleme12 · 01/11/2020 00:17

@Ellmau

It's not well written.

I'm my parents' bubble, and can only get there by public transport. I may just wait four weeks, but if it is extended, I'm not sure.

Mmm that's a hard one I see your dilemma I'm the same but my bubble can drive so they come pick me up. I don't see them that regularly though so I'm not sure if I'll see them in the next month or not
Barryisland · 01/11/2020 01:39

It’s hardly a support bubble though is it? Op wants to go and see her boyfriend.
I stand by my comment that it’s unnecessary travel and she shouldn’t be staying overnight.
We can all make excuses to get around the rules but the more that do it the longer the masses will suffer.

GoGoPowerScooter · 01/11/2020 01:46

It is a support bubble - that's the very definition of a support bubble Hmm

GoGoPowerScooter · 01/11/2020 01:49

And it's not "an excuse to get around the rules"; it's in the rules. Stop dishing out advice when you don't understand the guidance.

Barryisland · 01/11/2020 01:49

Well let’s just all say we are in a support bubble with someone and ignore all the rules shall we. Any one near a nice beach that wants to be in a support bubble with me next week? Might change it to someone near a nice forest walk the next week.

GoGoPowerScooter · 01/11/2020 02:06

You have to fit specific criteria to be in a support bubble. You can't just decide to form one with anyone; it's for adults who live alone/single parents who don't have another adult living with them.

GoGoPowerScooter · 01/11/2020 02:07

And support bubbles can't be changed week to week. Why the hostility about support bubbles?

HarrietOh · 01/11/2020 02:43

What do you think support bubbles are?!

I live on my own and absolutely will still be going to DPs as we are a support bubble.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 01/11/2020 04:35

My elderly mum (nearly 80) is in a support bubble with us even though we are 90 minutes away. She has to stay overnight as it's too tiring for her to drive to.ours and back in one day and she hates driving in the dark unless its local. So she has to stay over.

I'm her only family. I did suggest she could bubble with someone more local to her but she was adamant she didn't want to. So she will.come to us next weekend and probably most weekends through lockdown.

I can't see anything in the rules that says she can't do this. And it IS necessary travel, she is travelling to get support from us. Otherwise she is stuck in her bungalow without any human interaction.

WankPuffins · 01/11/2020 07:00

My dad in his 80s lives two hours away. We go to get him and bring him to stay for a few days every month. He only sees us we are his only family.

We will be picking him up for a few days in two weeks as planned.

It’s necessary travel as he isn’t confident driving all that way on his own and if he didn’t come and see us, he’d be on his own indoors all the time.

OverTheRubicon · 01/11/2020 07:13

@Barryisland

Well let’s just all say we are in a support bubble with someone and ignore all the rules shall we. Any one near a nice beach that wants to be in a support bubble with me next week? Might change it to someone near a nice forest walk the next week.
No, the whole point of a support bubble is to minimise the impact of isolation. She has one support bubble, which is her partner. Yes, ideally he'd be closer, but overnights are allowed within support bubbles, and you're meant to minimise travel but there's no guidance to say it has to stop.

Ffs stop making up your own rules and let people have some kind of love and affection in their lives.

carolebaskinfedhimtothetigers · 01/11/2020 07:34

OP me and my DP are the same, he lives alone 90 minutes away from me and we will still be seeing each other at weekends even though he isn't local Smile

Completmentfille · 01/11/2020 07:38

You're allowed to stay overnight with your support bubble. A lot of people on this thread have no idea what they are talking about.

Completmentfille · 01/11/2020 07:39

Well let’s just all say we are in a support bubble with someone and ignore all the rules shall we.

Oh go away.