Mentally I cannot survive another lockdown

Kirstymonkey3 · 2020-10-31T10:34:17+00:00

The last one was so tough. I have lodgers so didn’t have a support bubble but I wouldn’t have chosen to lockdown with them. I’m not mentally strong enough for this

bigchris · 31/10/2020 10:35

It's amazing what people do survive though

At least our lockdown has always let us go out into the fresh air and exercise

Fivemoreminutes1 · 31/10/2020 10:50

It won’t be like the last one. Even in tier 3 lockdowns at the moment, you can meet up to six people in a public space like a park or beach as long as social distancing is maintained. Some restaurants and pubs which serve ‘substantial meals' can remain open. Schools and childcare will still be open. Some tier 3 areas still have non-essential shops open.

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Kirstymonkey3 · 31/10/2020 11:27

I haven’t been out for meals/drinks even though they’re allowed. It’s more the friends and feelings of loneliness. Not being able to hug anyone has been so horrible

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coronaway · 31/10/2020 11:29

Just hug people op if you're feeling that low.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 31/10/2020 11:31

@coronaway

Just hug people op if you're feeling that low.

You can only hug people if they are willing be hugged.

Flyonawalk · 31/10/2020 11:34

OP it would be a travesty and I too hope it won’t happen. Look up flu deaths in U.K. in January 2018. Over 64,000 in a month, highest since records began. No lockdown then. I am aghast at the madness which has taken over in 2030. Sorry your feel bleak.

Rushjob · 31/10/2020 11:34

Interesting business opportunity there. Sell hugs to the lonely thanks to lockdown.

thinningtheherd · 31/10/2020 11:35

@coronaway

Just hug people op if you're feeling that low.

and that is entirely why we are in this mess, the mentality of some people!!!

Flyonawalk · 31/10/2020 11:35

I mean 2020 not 2030! By then this will surely be like a memory of a distant nightmare.

rooella · 31/10/2020 11:45

Flyonawalk - those weren't all flu deaths!! That was death for all cause!!

jdoejnr1 · 31/10/2020 11:47

@Flyonawalk

OP it would be a travesty and I too hope it won’t happen. Look up flu deaths in U.K. in January 2018. Over 64,000 in a month, highest since records began. No lockdown then. I am aghast at the madness which has taken over in 2030. Sorry your feel bleak.

Where are you getting your data from because 64,000 in a month is bullshit!

PotteringAlong · 31/10/2020 11:51

There has never ever been a month where 64,000 people have died of flu.

That’s 2100 people dying a day. Of flu? Just no.

rooella · 31/10/2020 11:52

Just under 16000 people died of flu winter 17-18! I really wish people would get their facts right before sharing!

Flyonawalk · 31/10/2020 11:56

I should have stated more clearly, there were 64,000 deaths in UK in Jan 2018, of all causes, with 22,000 directly attributed to flu. As a monthly figure this dwarfs anything seen in 2020. And given that many covid deaths are due to other factors as well, I find the figure I quoted comparable.

rooella · 31/10/2020 11:58

For January alone??? Source?

TheFallenMadonna · 31/10/2020 12:02

The 22 000 is I believe an estimate for the 2017-2018 flu season. So considerably lower than the estimate for Covid deaths to date.

Flyonawalk · 31/10/2020 12:03

I don’t know how to link, but a google of date and country brings up the report from the ONS (office of national statistics), with detailed breakdown.

TheFallenMadonna · 31/10/2020 12:04

Flu deaths are also often linked with "underlying conditions) which is why vulnerable groups are offered the vaccine.

amusedtodeath1 · 31/10/2020 12:23

@Flyonawalk

OP it would be a travesty and I too hope it won’t happen. Look up flu deaths in U.K. in January 2018. Over 64,000 in a month, highest since records began. No lockdown then. I am aghast at the madness which has taken over in 2030. Sorry your feel bleak.

2018 was an exceptional year, the vaccine didn't include the strain that was killing people. Hospitals were over run and people were dying on trolleys in corridors. It's not January yet so we have no idea how much worse Covid could be by that time.

It's no help to try to make out to a person who is struggling, that they are struggling for no good reason. There's a good reason for tightening restrictions, it won't be as bad as the first and it won't be for as long.

OP, you can get through this, I'm so sorry you're struggling. I don't know what to suggest in your situation just that I'm listening and sending you virtual hugs

Blerg · 31/10/2020 12:27

@Kirstymonkey3 I am feeling similar today. You are not alone. I hope you can find a way to get through it all.

I have small children, so am having to cope because of them. I am torn between being inspired by what my great-grandparents and grandparents coped with, and berating myself for not being more mentally resilient. Having said that, from a distance everyone looks like they were coping with, for example, WW2, but I’m sure in reality lots of people weren’t.

A bit rambling, sorry, but I’m trying to let go of judging myself for feeling it is hard - that makes it easier, if that makes sense.

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Kirstymonkey3 · 31/10/2020 12:27

That’s the thing, I work for the nhs and see vulnerable patients in their homes. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if by living normally I have one of them COVID-19. This is why I’m being so careful. At the moment it’s nice to be able to see friends outside for dog walks even if I can’t hug them. I like being able to go into the office to see a couple of colleagues. I know a lockdown is probably the best thing. I’m not going to go out hugging people!
I have my flu vaccine to protect vulnerable patients and will have a Covid vaccine if one becomes available (I did sign up for a trial and got to the screening stage but due to an allergy couldn’t take part).

I won’t do anything I’m not allowed to. I just miss human contact and am already struggling!

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Namechanged1122 · 31/10/2020 12:30

You're not alone OP, I don't think I'll cope either.

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Kirstymonkey3 · 31/10/2020 12:34

I think mental health problems are going to increase alongside the worsening of problems with those who already have problems and were already struggling.

Sending hugs to anyone else who is struggling xx

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LindaEllen · 31/10/2020 12:42

I feel much the same at the moment.
I struggled in the first lockdown, but at the very least I had my garden, could meet family outside and could go out for walks.
A winter lockdown will be very different to this.
I looked outside of my window this morning to very heavy rain (to the extent my garden is pooling, which does mean very heavy) and I was thinking to myself if we were locked down right now, I clearly wouldn't be meeting family in a park or going for a walk.
Even if it's not raining, it's likely to be cold, and it's unfair on the older members of my family to expect them to meet outside.
DP is a key worker and working ridiculous hours, so I am very, very much alone and not eligible for a support bubble.
When he does come home, he's stressed and upset due to things he's seeing at work, so it's not even like it's a relief when he gets home, it just brings more misery (though I do obviously prefer him being home).

SaskiaRembrandt · 31/10/2020 12:47

@Flyonawalk

I don’t know how to link, but a google of date and country brings up the report from the ONS (office of national statistics), with detailed breakdown.

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