Secondary schools minimising positive results

[gingerbread88]

I wondered whether this had happened in other schools/areas?
Our local senior school has an outbreak that hasn't been clearly communicated.

Oaktree55
Schools don't decide what constitutes a contact.
They follow the information they are given from the DfE and Public Health.

Why are people not getting this?
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Half the issue working in schools during this pandemic is that there's always people quick to argue the toss, decide it should be done how they want it doing, blame the schools for not policing people's parenting or giving them enough of a nudge, arguing that masks should or shouldn't be worn (depending on their opinion and what study they've read a summary of online).

All schools in the U.K. are COVID secure. There is no evidence that the virus is being transmitted in classrooms.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"All schools in the U.K. are COVID secure. There is no evidence that the virus is being transmitted in classrooms"

You are, as they say, having a laugh

@Ecosse say something intelligent if you expect a discussion

Ah yes the virus that magically knows to stay out of a classroom with 30 unmasked 17 year olds in all day but runs riot everywhere else

In our school the obvious staff close contacts are identified then the Head emails all staff notifying us of the positive case and asking if anyone else needs a discussion with her about any close contact they might have had within the timeframe.

[quote Ecosse]@Oaktree55

All schools in the U.K. are COVID secure. There is no evidence that the virus is being transmitted in classrooms.

There is evidence that some teachers and staff have been gathering in staff rooms and communal areas without socially distancing/ clearly this is a risk and heads need to be flanking down on it.[/quote]
You are utterly deluded.

The close contact issue though ignores the aerosol spread 🤦🏽‍♀️. I’m not blaming schools but it’s unscientific.

The close contact issue though ignores the aerosol spread

Yup, teachers know this. DfE are ignoring it.

I'm sure at least 16+ year olds must be spreading it in schools? Having said that, there have been very few cases in schools locally to me, I'm expecting that to change this term.

@Cantaloupeisland given the inability of many students to even remember a pencil I do think that's a lot of responsibility to place on their shoulders.

[quote Ecosse]@Oaktree55

All schools in the U.K. are COVID secure. There is no evidence that the virus is being transmitted in classrooms.

There is evidence that some teachers and staff have been gathering in staff rooms and communal areas without socially distancing/ clearly this is a risk and heads need to be flanking down on it.[/quote]
lololololol

@LolaSmiles

Oaktree55 Schools don't decide what constitutes a contact. They follow the information they are given from the DfE and Public Health.

Why are people not getting this?
🤦‍♀️

Half the issue working in schools during this pandemic is that there's always people quick to argue the toss, decide it should be done how they want it doing, blame the schools for not policing people's parenting or giving them enough of a nudge, arguing that masks should or shouldn't be worn (depending on their opinion and what study they've read a summary of online).

Workplaces/schools/hospitals that (are forced to) let it be believed they've only had a couple of cases when actually they've had ten times as many are 'nudging' people around them too - in a very unhelpful direction. It's OK for people around or in those institutions to have an opinion on that!

The small number of cases linked to schools (the vast majority of which likely a result of staff room and other gatherings between teachers and staff) are far outweighed by the huge benefit to DCs and society of schools being open.

DCs need their education and schools must and will be staying open on a full time basis.

When were you last in a school staffroom Ecosse?

the vast majority of which likely a result of staff room and other gatherings between teachers and staff

Evidence for this?

Ah the staffroom... I remember the days when we had one of those.
And "gatherings". I suppose you could blame our two linked staff cases on them "gathering" ... but then perhaps we should have banned them from being married.

Evidence of transmission in schools.

Ecosse doesn’t have any evidence and doesn’t have the intelligence to understand the fact that many cases in kids fly under radar. She is probably knocking back the Valium frantically typing on here that “schools will stay open” as she obviously struggles with her own kids 😆. One of the same posters back in June who denied there’d be a second wave blah blah blah zzzzz

@Ecosse

The small number of cases linked to schools (the vast majority of which likely a result of staff room and other gatherings between teachers and staff) are far outweighed by the huge benefit to DCs and society of schools being open.

DCs need their education and schools must and will be staying open on a full time basis.

No, they bloody well won't if cases & deaths keep rising like this.

I would call this the King Canute attitude.

There are a very large number of cases linked to schools.

More than half of schools had cases before half term.

The infection control provisions in schools are very poor and do not incorporate the WHO recommendations.

So you're way off. Again.

@Hercwasonaroll

Dr Jenny Harries has been very clear that any risk in schools is not from DC to DC or DC to adult transmission. It is from staff coffee breaks and lunch times.

Unfortunately it seems that some staff have not been socially distancing or maintaining the correct protocols during these unstructured social times.

Perhaps the time has come for the government to issue a national directive that all staff rooms and subject based must be locked until further notice, with staff instructed to stay in their classrooms during breaks.

www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/uk/teachers-more-likely-to-get-covid-on-a-coffee-break-harries/amp/

I wonder when Jenny Harries was last in a school?

That's two months old, Ecosse. We've all seen it.
I'm fairly sure that the cases in school didn't come from our non existent staffroom.

[quote Ecosse]@Hercwasonaroll

Dr Jenny Harries has been very clear that any risk in schools is not from DC to DC or DC to adult transmission. It is from staff coffee breaks and lunch times.

Unfortunately it seems that some staff have not been socially distancing or maintaining the correct protocols during these unstructured social times.

Perhaps the time has come for the government to issue a national directive that all staff rooms and subject based must be locked until further notice, with staff instructed to stay in their classrooms during breaks.[/quote]
That might have been the opinion of Dr Harries (whose opinion on related matters has often been called into question), several weeks ago.

That doesn't mean she is correct and does not reflect the current situation, I' m afraid.

is a link to the current Independent SAGE discussion (ongoing as I write) in which several eminent Professors are agreeing that schools are a key contributor to the current rapid increase in cases.