Not a chance in hell of a proper Christmas?

[ShortFatandDumpy]

So I'm in lockdown after weeks of local restrictions here in Wales.

I keep hearing the "if we clamp down now we can have a proper xmas" line being spouted out.
That's bullshit isn't it.
Cases started to surge (in the areas that have seen a surge) at the start to mid September when schools and unis went back and after a good 6 to 8 weeks of more social interaction over August.

So I'm in Wales, on day 1of a so say short sharp 17 day lockdown. IF and I mean IF this Lock down ends in 17 days time that's about 7 weeks ish to Xmas, surely that will be prime peaking out of control time again for Covid hospital admissions??
Even if we go back to our local restrictions here, there's not been a great slow in numbers. I just cant see Xmas happenning either unless we stay locked down until mid December, and no way does anyone want that.
Someone local posted on our community page our area has had only 9 weeks free of restrictions since March!! No idea how true that is, I've lost track but it certainly feels like it.
Add on top of that, people like me live in a rural area and have been unable to travel to larger shops for weeks now. Normally by now I've done the kids Primark stocking filler haul, but I havnt been able to get into Cardiff for weeks now. If we keep on the restrictions, I won't be able to do Xmas shopping. I have Amazon Prime but bloody hell the price difference is quite vast compared to budget shops!
I'm so fed up and can't see anything like a normal Xmas. Ive also student kids in 2 tier 3 cities and parents in England. I'm licked in Wales and so fed up.
Anyone else thinking and feeling the same?

We are not doing Christmas this year, looks like we might be heading for Tier 4
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18821876.tier-4-restrictions-mean-lancashire/

If only people would follow the rules, if only the rules would be enforced! I do not know anyone apart from my household that is following the rules!

My neighbours are always having people around, friends, workman, boyfriends.

A place of worship near us had over 100 cars parked outside the other day, jampacked full of people in the building,

No-one seems to give a shit

I do however feel for single people who don’t have a bubble but then what they usually do at Xmas that’s different ? Spend it with friends, go on holiday, go to a hotel? None of that's going to be easy this year.

Not having a bubble is not the same as having no friends or family and always spending Christmas alone in your room.

I imagine Christmas day may be an excemption if numbers start to fall to a reasonable level.

It’s really tricky and I bet we won’t get any clarity until early December which will then cause a mad rush for people to stock up depending what rules are decided.

I have a small family but even if DP and I see parents, in laws and siblings over the xmas period that would be 5 households mixing. I just can’t see it being allowed given most people have larger families with cousins, friends, aunties added in. I wonder if they will cap a max number of households or something. Otherwise it will be a free for all.

Personally am thinking of booking a meal out on Christmas Day for just me and DP and if we’re allowed to meet up then we will organise in the days after Xmas.

I suspect Boris will implore people to use common sense, then blame the public for “killing granny” When cases inevitably increase in January because people follow the example of our leaders and ignore the rules because they’re using their (lack of) judgement.

Whereas the devolved countries will probably ban household mixing over Christmas and then blame selfish people for ignoring the rules when cases inevitably increase in January

(I will be sticking to the rules fwiw, but I think I’m a minority)

Correct, it's a carrot to try and get people to comply with the rules. Whether or not they comply with the rules, it'll make no difference to infection rates. We might get "allowed" a day or two of seeing others at Christmas anyway just so Boris can get his St Boris Saves Christmas headline, then they'll lock us all back up indefinitely from Jan onwards.

It's going to be a fantastic Xmas. I've got a top excuse for not spending it with boring family members. Hurray.

@littlefatso

We are not doing Christmas this year, looks like we might be heading for Tier 4 www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18821876.tier-4-restrictions-mean-lancashire/

If only people would follow the rules, if only the rules would be enforced! I do not know anyone apart from my household that is following the rules!

My neighbours are always having people around, friends, workman, boyfriends.

A place of worship near us had over 100 cars parked outside the other day, jampacked full of people in the building,

No-one seems to give a shit

Yep. All these people gleefully telling us they are breaking the rules.....this is where it leads. More rules. Brilliant.

@lovelemoncurd

It's going to be a fantastic Xmas. I've got a top excuse for not spending it with boring family members. Hurray.

Good for you. Please spare a thought for those of us who live alone and haven't seen their beloved family for months.