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To not get the per 100,000 population - I am no expert 🤣

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Lostandlonely2020 · 22/10/2020 23:34

I am wondering if you could explain the point of it. So we have been told to look out more for increases in deaths and hospital admissions but I don’t see how the tier situation will help this when we are going by per 100,000 infection rates.
Surely the more people infected the more hospital admissions followed by more deaths there will be.
But take Manchester etc as an examples they have more cases per 100,000 than London but London have more infections in total so surely London will still impact the hospital admission data and deaths than Manchester ?

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Qasd · 22/10/2020 23:38

London has more capacity in its hospitals because it has more beds because it has more people (if you think in absolute numbers). It’s not how many people total are in a cities hospitals that matter but what percentage of the total beds they take up which is the definition of overwhelmed.

Lostandlonely2020 · 22/10/2020 23:42

Hmm but as in looking at daily graphs it won’t make a difference though will it ? I keep seeing people say focus on deaths and admissions but if London is still got the highest infections than it won’t change those numbers.
Our borough is the second worse borough at the moment slowly begins the worse
Both now heading towards 200 per 100,000 people. We are are ridiculously high density area around 25,000 per mile.
2 hospitals
Both with icu beds at capacity of 20.

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PatriciaHolm · 22/10/2020 23:43

The Tier decision isn't just being taken on cases per 100,000 though; that's just a handy soundbite and something the media can easily compare on.

Tier decisions take into account local factors such as source/distribution of cases, spread, and local healthcare capabilities. London, for example, has the highest ratio of critical care beds to population in the country.

Lostandlonely2020 · 22/10/2020 23:45

@PatriciaHolm suppose but there is other factors in that we also take critical care patients from most surrounding areas, for instance Essex. Lots of transfers from surrounding places who also rely on London’s specialist and critical care beds.

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MinesAPintOfTea · 22/10/2020 23:50

That's the case for all the big city hospitals though. Half the northwest go to Liverpool or Manchester for anything complicated.

Cases per 100000 mean you can compare Lancashire (a big county) with East Cheshire (much smaller) and understand which is more infected.

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