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Coronavirus is with us indefinitely

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Sb2012 · 21/10/2020 15:31

I knew this was always a possibility, but like many others I lived in hope that like many viruses this will do its thing and perhaps naturally run it’s course just like the Spanish flu did. I was thinking of back then the Spanish flu took 2 years to run it’s course, in this day and age we might be able to bring this thing under control on half that time.
Looks like it’s not going anywhere and now I actually feel overwhelmed by what will happen.
A vaccine appears like the only way out of this. I am desperately praying that the U.K. will take the SAGE advice seriously. I hope the government does everything possible to suppress cases for now and get this vaccine rolled out ASAP or this is just going to get worse.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-disease-not-likely-to-be-eradicated-sage-scientist-says-12110135

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MilkGoatee · 21/10/2020 16:52

New Scientist carried an article some months ago about how there are 4 coronaviruses that are responsible for 25% of common colds. One of them the Russian Flu virus that was mentioned by PP. There is some circumstantial evidence that there was at least one other like that, which jumped from the animal kingdom to humans, caused a pandemic (or at least an epidemic) and the slowly weakened to a common cold virus.

Although it is obviously not certain, it is not unlikely that the current virus will respond in a similar way.

I think one should also not forget that the common flu (whichever strain) can cause really serious health issues. Not just because of people developing pneumonia on the back of it, causing death (similar to Corona) but also long term health conditions. But it happens to relatively few people.

Absolute bummer if it happens to your nearest and dearest, but in public health terms it's one of those things.

Harehedge · 21/10/2020 16:54

I didn't interpret that article in the same way. He thinks there will be a vaccine and it will make a big difference so we should hang in there. And probably need to hang in there in the future at times but there will be a vaccine so nothing like this.

Harehedge · 21/10/2020 16:57

I know that feeling you're describing. Horrible.

Oblomov20 · 21/10/2020 17:01

All your post is utter overreaction and nonsense. There will be a Vaccine, it will die out a bit. Most don't even get it that badly. Many are asymptotic, so they can't be that bloody ill if they haven't even noticed. You need to get a grip.

Heatherjayne1972 · 21/10/2020 17:11

@sb2012
There will be a vaccine eventually.

I suspect it will be a yearly one like the flu vaccine
And the scientists and doctors are constantly learning about it - we know so much more already They’re working on medicines and treatments all the time
So there’s hope.

It’s good sense to keep washing hands And practice good hygiene - I’d like to think that’s here to stay
Realistically I’m thinking next spring is when we may see some return to normal socialising. What we’re currently experiencing is not forever.

herecomesthsun · 21/10/2020 17:24

@Oblomov20

All your post is utter overreaction and nonsense. There will be a Vaccine, it will die out a bit. Most don't even get it that badly. Many are asymptotic, so they can't be that bloody ill if they haven't even noticed. You need to get a grip.
The ones that die were bloody ill, unfortunately. There will be a lot of those to inconvenience you this winter.

The CMOs were concerned enough to suggest a lockdown last month. Do you think you know better than them? That they should get a grip? Presumably you do.

SqidgeBum · 21/10/2020 17:26

I am another who thinks it will just become part of flu season and life. There are many things that kill vulnerable people every year; mrsa, norovirus, pneumonia, flu. Yes, they arent as infectious outside of hospitals, but we dont spend our days living in fear of them. I feel this has been focused on so much the fear has exploded. We will just get on with it eventually.

annabel85 · 21/10/2020 17:28

@Orangeblossom7777

Some people think it may be a bit like a seasonal thing with a yearly vaccine
It'll probably end up like a variant of the common cold or influenza but the problem is it's a new virus, so will be very serious for a while yet to the elderly and vulnerable (who get flu vaccines every year).

We need a vaccine or a miracle cure, it's as simple as that. Lockdowns and social distancing can only buy time in the hope of a cure.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 21/10/2020 17:29

@SqidgeBum yep I agree with you and the over focus. The media and 24hour social media/news access has no helped in the slightest. If this had been even 10 years ago I really doubt there would have been this level of hysteria

tobee · 21/10/2020 17:42

I think the headline was meant to scare people.

MissEliza · 21/10/2020 17:48

I don't know why anyone thought it could be eradicated. Smallpox is the only virus ever eradicated, because it was the only virus solely transmitted between humans.

Sb2012 · 21/10/2020 17:58

@Oblomov20

All your post is utter overreaction and nonsense. There will be a Vaccine, it will die out a bit. Most don't even get it that badly. Many are asymptotic, so they can't be that bloody ill if they haven't even noticed. You need to get a grip.
Erm... Can you even read? The overreaction and nonsense is breaking news on sky news 🤷‍♀️ It’s a sage advisor. And I never said there won’t be a vaccine? Where did you get that from? I said the only quick way out is a vaccine I also said I’m not fond of natural herd immunity. Natural as in get infected and then get immunity as opposed to a vaccine that can give some level of immunity. Also I never said it isn’t mild in most cases. I 100% know many are asymptomatic, but that doesn’t make our lives “normal” again does it? However, I do have family members that are over 60 and I do worry about them. Isn’t that just natural to not just think about your own risks but worry about loved ones too? Also please explain how does someone being asymptomatic help the current situation? Even if I’m asymptomatic to a certain extent I can’t still go on holidays like I used to, have family get togethers, go shopping without masks go to work without having to wear masks and social distance etc. Neither can you regardless of whether we have a mild form or severe form of the disease.
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SqidgeBum · 21/10/2020 19:26

@Sb2012 but you cant spend your life thinking you are asymptomatic. If we all did that, none of us would ever leave our house. The same as every other illness since the dawn of time, covid 19 will just have to become a risk we accept in life. We have no choice. We actually accept risks every day, some more likely to kill you than covid, but they arent splashed all over sky news 24/7.

grassisjeweled · 21/10/2020 19:30

Surely we know this isn't news?

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