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Does it matter if I don't reply to Track & Trace text?

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ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 09:32

Someone I met briefly has tested positive with COVID and I've had 'the text'. I'll be self-isolating for 14 days but is there any real need to fill in the forms and give my full name - the acquaintance and I are just on first name terms - and all my details? Does it help with research on how the virus spreads or is it just about keeping tabs on me (which I'm not keen on).

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ssd · 21/10/2020 09:32

I'd do it.

MJMG2015 · 21/10/2020 09:36

I'm not entirely sure how much they're using the information, not as much as they could/should I suspect, but on the off chance it helps them to learn anything I'd be happy to do as they've asked.

I doubt they'll do anything about checking up on you, but if you're isolating any way, what difference would it make?

Iamdobby63 · 21/10/2020 09:39

Not seen the form but I believe it’s to help stop the spread, so yes, I would do it.

LangClegsInSpace · 21/10/2020 09:57

It's a legal requirement to provide the address where you will be isolating.

PleasantVille · 21/10/2020 10:01

Are you sure it's to do with the person you met briefly? I though they didn't tell you who the positive person was, how did you become a close contact with that person?

ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 10:03

Thanks all, I took your advice on board. And just as I was squinting at the text link & trying to think of a password for my account, I got a phone call from a Track & Trace advisor so I've given all my info over the phone. I'm actually quite impressed that they chased me up within 24 hours & also offered support with income, shopping etc.

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ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 10:05

Yes, I'm sure who the person is as she texted me apologetically. We just bumped into each other while out and about & had a chat at a distance so hopefully I'll be ok. It's already been a few days.

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AcornAutumn · 21/10/2020 10:05

I do t understand how you’ve been asked this when you met the person briefly. I thought it was 15 mins close contact?

PleasantVille · 21/10/2020 10:08

@AcornAutumn

I do t understand how you’ve been asked this when you met the person briefly. I thought it was 15 mins close contact?
I don't understand either, what you describe isn't something you need to isolate for.
ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 10:24

Yes sorry, briefly was a misleading word to use. We only chatted face to face briefly but then walked alongside each other until we got to her street. All outdoors and 1-2 metres apart but she thought our contact met the criteria of 15 or more mins.

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PleasantVille · 21/10/2020 10:41

@ScribblingMilly

Yes sorry, briefly was a misleading word to use. We only chatted face to face briefly but then walked alongside each other until we got to her street. All outdoors and 1-2 metres apart but she thought our contact met the criteria of 15 or more mins.
That's interesting, I wouldn't have reported you as a contact at all. By coincidence I know someone who was part of an outdoor yoga class, all kept 2m apart by the instructor who didn't report any of the other class members when she had a positive test, I think your friend has been extremely cautious, it doesnt sound like you were a risk.
AcornAutumn · 21/10/2020 11:12

@ScribblingMilly

Yes sorry, briefly was a misleading word to use. We only chatted face to face briefly but then walked alongside each other until we got to her street. All outdoors and 1-2 metres apart but she thought our contact met the criteria of 15 or more mins.
This is why I can’t do much

Risking being caught in this....I’d be furious to be reported as a contact for that.

I’d be more likely to get it on public transport

Grobagsforever · 21/10/2020 11:29

Outside for less than 15 mins?

Good lord don't isolate and don't give Cummings gang your personal details to sell to their mates.

Aragog · 21/10/2020 11:29

ThemT&T thing is very much dependent on who the person testing positive lists as a close contact.

When I filled mine in I had to provide the name and contact number of any close contacts.

Almost immediately they received a SI text stating that they must SI from their date of contact or onset of symptoms. They weren't given a date as to when that was or when SI ended for then.

There didn't appear to be any way for them to contest that, if they hadn't agreed.

Dd has since spoken to T&T as they contacted her by phone. She was to.d a totally different date to the one we had worked out by the caller. But then got an email following it with another date entirely - though a much closer date to the one we'd worked out.

I'm not sure where people stand legally if T&T contact them but they disagree that they've had close,contact.

AcornAutumn · 21/10/2020 11:44

Aragog "I'm not sure where people stand legally if T&T contact them but they disagree that they've had close,contact"

this is partly why I think some of us won't go to pubs and restaurants.

The theory of close contact - I don't need to isolate if someone sitting several yards away tested positive.

Am also concerned about use of data.

Aragog · 21/10/2020 12:09

AcornAutumn

I do put down that I'd been to the pub for a meal, but also didn't add close contacts bar the 2 friends I shared a table with.

As we know the landlady we called her straight away to let her know. No one else in the pub that evening was classed as a contact, so no one else had to isolate as a result.

Hopefully that helps put minds at a rest a bit.

However, if I'd listed anyone else as a close contact and I knew enough to add their names and numbers they would have been contacted and told io SI.

AcornAutumn · 21/10/2020 12:29

Aragog - you don’t know what will be done though. There’s been pubs and restaurants closed due to “outbreaks”.

Aragog · 21/10/2020 14:32

I agree I don't know what will happen elsewhere but I do know what's happened at the place I went to. We are now over a week since my result came in, and it's been 11 days since I was at that pub.
I know that they have not had to tell anyone about it, and no one has been contacted as a result of T&T or otherwise, bar the 2 friends I sat with - and I gave T&T their details, as well as telling them directly.

My dd and her friends who were sat apart from us but in The same pub were not contacted. DDs friends were never close contacts to me - always more than 2m away. I did not name them. They were signed into the pub using their T&T app plus hand written number and name on entry.

So certainly in my case there has been no tracing for non contacts.

Orangeblossom7777 · 21/10/2020 16:02

I'd be pissed off if a friend did that to me. and would not answer, or tell them how it was.

Feminist10101 · 21/10/2020 16:03

@ScribblingMilly

Someone I met briefly has tested positive with COVID and I've had 'the text'. I'll be self-isolating for 14 days but is there any real need to fill in the forms and give my full name - the acquaintance and I are just on first name terms - and all my details? Does it help with research on how the virus spreads or is it just about keeping tabs on me (which I'm not keen on).
Why were you within 2m of someone you’re only on first name terms with?
Orangeblossom7777 · 21/10/2020 16:16

Out of interest what happens if you don't reply? Do they keep texting or calling you. And what happens if you tell them it was outside and less than 15 mins, do they believe you or the friend?

Juanmorebeer · 21/10/2020 16:22

Hi OP just to explain what I know about it, I'm a police officer and this set of shifts I've had to do 3 door knocks forwarded from the home office for self isolation checks.

Track and trace will Try to make contact 3 times, if they are unable to the job gets passed to the local police force to chase up.

I know it's annoying but I'd urge you to follow the instructions as the pressure this is putting on the police is immense. We should be going out to real emergencies, not this.

ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 16:35

That's so interesting about the 3 goes, Juanmorebeer. I answered the T&T call this morning so no danger of a police knock for me. What if the police doesn't have your address? Does it become a full-on hunt?

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Juanmorebeer · 21/10/2020 16:44

Well the last one I had was the address and date of birth but no actual name! So I'm not too sure really, they'd check someone out by their council tax bill etc to see what address they are registered to and then try there.

ScribblingMilly · 21/10/2020 17:03

I can see it must take up time you'd rather be spending on other police work.
I'm now realising from reading the criteria again, that I don't meet it as it says 1-2m for 15 mins or longer and we were 2m plus for most of that time. Aaagh, I suppose I can't discuss it with the T&T people as there's no number to call them back on.

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