We are fucked

[WindChimeTinkle]

The country is falling apart, mass unemployment looming, unrest, mental health crisis, education of a generation screwed, people in care homes isolated and alone......what the fucking hell is going on. I can't take anymore

I’m really scared too my dh has a lung condition both parents shielding ...oh and I own a bridal shop and have no clue how to diversify because I’m so stressed 😥 but hopefully we will all bounce back and be stronger ..somehow we have to find new strength every day and focus on positive things I guess.. X

And I’m sure once those who aren’t traditionally pushed to the fringes (the disabled, the mentally unwell, those with chronic health problems, those with disadvantage already built in) are back in an equilibrium again, nobody once again will give a shit.

My family have experienced some incredible pain due to the repercussions of Covid. I don’t want to explain the situation on here as it’s fairly outing. But I still feel hopeful. It might be a cliche but I look at my kids and I feel I HAVE to feel hope.

@WindChimeTinkle

The country is falling apart, mass unemployment looming, unrest, mental health crisis, education of a generation screwed, people in care homes isolated and alone......what the fucking hell is going on. I can't take anymore

Totally 100% with you. When I think about it all, it makes me want to cry. I am sure we will get through it, but I don't know when. I just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I keep feeling very low, and full of dread and sadness.

This is the worst thing to have happened in my lifetime, and I was born in the 1960s, so have been through various recessions and bad shit.

(((HUGS))) to you and everyone on here. ❤️

@Pringlemonster

Bollocks - my grandfather came back a monster. The resulting trauma passed on down through the next two generations. You have NO idea what you’re talking about

Honestly I'm worried about hard Brexit hitting now on top of this. Super grim

@grenouilleescargot I'll tell you why, because you have gone on about your family, ie past generations, not you, not now, and there are people suffering RIGHT NOW losing their livelihoods, losing their homes, and you have called that a walk in the park so fuck you too.

@grenouilleescargot and if you think yours was the only family affected by the 2nd world war you are sorely deluded, but really? A walk in the park?

@MaxNormal

My parents went to school and found empty chairs in the classroom because their friends had been killed in the bombing the night before. They lived in a 2 up 2 down inner city terrace with 12 people because their grandparents had been bombed out so both sets came to live with them. My 5 year old father drew pictures to send to his father who saw active service in WW2 and came back severely disabled and with PTSD. My grandfather was in a reserved occupation and not allowed to go to fight, he was abused in the street - punched, kicked, his children ostracised because of it. Their house windows were broken repeatedly with bricks.

It's like the Four Yorkshiremen.

In a way, but the comedy sketch evolved from real situations. MaxNormal’s story is repeated so many times through people who lived through appalling situations. Really, ours isn’t so bad in comparison.

@grenouilleescargot

Indeed - how fucking dare they indeed. I guess some really gave no idea how the trauma from WWll has continued to resonate for some families.

Has anyone noticed that those making the decisions about lockdowns, benefit payments and job losses are all in the public sector with job security, pensions and etc. The vast majority of them do not need to worry about losing their jobs/pensions and so on.

However, the majority of people that their decisions impact are lower paid private sector workers.

I do not know what the solution is, but "risk" must seem different to the different sectors.

Also, I agree with @MaxNormal comparing how hard life was in days of old/during the 1st and 2nd world wars/Victorian times - to now - is pointless and helps no-one.

It's like dismissing a woman who has post natal depression after her first baby - and is struggling with her mental health - and saying that she needs to suck it up and get over it, because other women have 2 or 3 children to deal with, so she has it easy.

This misery 'top-trumps' game is very unfair, and achieves nothing.

@LaLaLandIsNoFun my grandfather was never the same after returning from active service.
How does that make what people are going through now any different, any easier? What the hell is the point of these constant war references?
It's an attempt to shame the suffering into shutting up, and it's bullshit.

My Grandad had shell shock during WW1.
My mum was terrified of the doodle bugs in WW2 and my dad was called up aged 18 to fight in the war.
All that was awful and life changing for them , but so is this latest health emergency and how it's been handled and the social problems it will also bring. You can't really compare the two as they are both different , but mental health problems have always existed just not talked about as much back then. Or even acknowledged. People did have to just get on with it and that probably made them feel worse.

MaxNormal’s story is repeated so many times through people who lived through appalling situations

That wasn't MaxNormals story, it's my family's, MaxNormal was the PP who compared it to Monty Python in a moment of extreme crassness.

@grenouilleescargot you really don't get to tell me what I can and can't post. Maybe if you hadn't come on here and absoutely minimised and insulted what people are going through by calling it a "walk in the park"?
You think people should just take that while you can say what the hell you want?

[quote MaxNormal]@grenouilleescargot you really don't get to tell me what I can and can't post. Maybe if you hadn't come on here and absoutely minimised and insulted what people are going through by calling it a "walk in the park"?
You think people should just take that while you can say what the hell you want?[/quote]
You evidently did.
I haven't told you what you could post I told you what I thought of it.

Mumsnet have told you what you can't post.

@the80sweregreat

My Grandad had shell shock during WW1. My mum was terrified of the doodle bugs in WW2 and my dad was called up aged 18 to fight in the war. All that was awful and life changing for them , but so is this latest health emergency and how it's been handled and the social problems it will also bring. You can't really compare the two as they are both different , but mental health problems have always existed just not talked about as much back then. Or even acknowledged. People did have to just get on with it and that probably made them feel worse.

You see I don’t get that at all. My husband and sons, I have 3, going off to fight in the war would be the very worst I could think of. I would have no one, - no one - at home. I would have to live through this period of years, imagining unknown horrors for each of the 4 , by myself. I know which situation I’d rather be in.

Frankly, I’m afraid having been one of the people living in the fringes of society due to mental ill health, experiencing the impact of lack of funding to adult social services, mental health services, children’s social services, legal aid, housing etc etc etc whilst the rest of the general population mooched along and flung ‘scrounger’ etc at me and people like me, I think it’s about time ‘normal’ people saw actually what it’s like for those already disadvantaged. I’ve seen scrounged after scrounged post here on MN over the years - now the shoes on the other foot. This is how it’s been for a long time for those who have extra hurdles - hopefully it will actually bring about change: a society that actuallly values human beings for themselves, rather than how much they can put into the coffers - but I won’t hold my breath.

It's best not to start swearing and angrily telling people your whole life story over a thread on a parenting website. Save your self the hassle. You will feel better if you walk away! Don't get over involved enough you start telling everyone your trauma.
Go and have a chat with a nice friend.

@moose62

Yes it is terrifying and frightening but really we need to pull ourselves together and find ways to cope. Wallowing doesn't help!

Couldn’t agree more. I’m now into week three of being very unwell with Covid. I thought I’d been cautious, wearing a mask etc and I was definitely shocked to test positive. I know I could be in a much worse position though so I’m trying to stay positive.

what are you planning on doing then, @WindChimeTinkle, as you can't take it anymore?