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Wales lockdown, whos paying the wages??

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3littlewords · 19/10/2020 19:52

For those businesses required to close are employers expected to pay their staff without trading? Are the self employed just expected to go unpaid?

I know non essential retail, hospitality, leisure and hairdressers have to close, but what about factories or construction sites , are they closed too?

Just trying to prepare myself financially in case when England follows suit.

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GirlCrush · 19/10/2020 22:44

Wales....so sorry for you all!

YardleyX · 19/10/2020 22:50

This is what comes of having a devolved government with all the power and no responsibility.

Where does Drakeford think he’s getting the money for all this?!?

Msmcc1212 · 19/10/2020 23:03

At least we know it is for a short time period. Last time we didn’t know when it would end.

Critical care beds are full in Wales so the plans to extend capacity mean things like planned surgery will be postponed. Other services will be affected. Ambulances are responding to more Covid related symptoms. 10% of 999 call outs are for covid symptoms. Each time it takes around 6 minutes to put on the necessary PPE and then the ambulance has to be deep cleaned afterwards. This all has a knock on effect on ambulance response times for any of us.

My husband will lose two weeks income and doesn’t meet any criteria for help. But money can’t buy a life back.

I think mortgage companies will have to be understanding.

3littlewords · 20/10/2020 07:30

At least we know it is for a short time period

What we don't know is how many more short sharp lockdowns will come in the future

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Figmentofmyimagination · 20/10/2020 08:17

3litrle I agree. Even if this works it’s only 3 months since the last lockdown ended so for it to be worthwhile and not just an empty gesture, you’d presumably have to cycle in and out of lockdowns every 8-12 weeks, depending on the season, presumably timed to coincide with school holidays, as half term seems to be the driver.

Horrendous prospect.

YardleyX · 20/10/2020 08:52

I think 8-12 weeks is optimistic.

With the lockdown only being 2 weeks this time, there’s no expectation that it will keep numbers down for that long.

When the CMO spoke, he said that every 2 weeks of lockdown buys us about a month of lifted restrictions.

TheDrsDocMartens · 20/10/2020 09:23

He said on bbc breakfast about financial support ‘being available’ as they mentioned the Westminster support package for low income people only coming in November.

110APiccadilly · 20/10/2020 10:11

@3littlewords

At least we know it is for a short time period

What we don't know is how many more short sharp lockdowns will come in the future

We also don't know what the rules will be when we come out.
YardleyX · 20/10/2020 10:13

I know!

Non-essential shops open back up; secondary school kids back in; everything else mostly the same I reckon 😕

110APiccadilly · 20/10/2020 10:31

@YardleyX

I know!

Non-essential shops open back up; secondary school kids back in; everything else mostly the same I reckon 😕

I'm really hoping not, but I don't have a good feeling about it.
Orangeblossom7777 · 20/10/2020 17:27

So, now Wales are 'concerned' people will lose out. Calling for the Treasury to fund it.

Em, maybe they should have thought of that first before doing this then Hmm

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54607893

Figmentofmyimagination · 20/10/2020 17:55

orangeblossom it really is staggering that they announced this first without doing their homework on wage support. Talk about throwing your constituents under a metaphorical bus.

RedDiamond · 20/10/2020 23:54

In my defence, can I say that I read the Govt guidelines, using the link provided by LadyFannyButton and at the time I read it, it was NOT what it is now, it has been updated. I was trying to reassure the OP.

I have to say I was surprised when I first read it and I was not being sarcastic. If you read my post again, I actually said I was surprised. Now, having re-read the link, it is obvious what the restrictions are.

DdraigGoch · 21/10/2020 00:21

@Orangeblossom7777

Who is going to pay for this? Do they have an arrangement like the tier 3 areas? But it will cost lots more if everything is closing...
The Welsh Government have asked Westminster to pay for it. The Chancellor told the First Ministers weeks ago that HMRC wouldn't be able to bring the Job Support Scheme forward. Needless to say, Welsh Labour will be sure to blame "evil Tories" for not funding this stupid lockdown despite Drakeford having been warned.
DdraigGoch · 21/10/2020 00:27

At least we know it is for a short time period.
I admire your optimism.

Msmcc1212 · 21/10/2020 08:50

www.moneysavingexpert.com/latesttip/?anchor=corona&utm_source=MSE_Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=20-Oct-20-50643815-9333&utm_campaign=nt-highlights&utm_content=2#corona

Just for info - last chance to apply for a payment holiday - just in case it’s helpful to anyone.

Msmcc1212 · 21/10/2020 08:53

Also, there was an article in the New Scientist suggesting that regular, planned fire break lockdowns that coincide with the school holidays could be a way forward. The reasoning being that then we can all plan for them.

Orangeblossom7777 · 21/10/2020 17:33

They have asked Westminster to pay but that doesn't mean they have agreed....

HeIenaDove · 21/10/2020 17:35

Saw on the news today that Scotland have had their circuit breaker extended.

Orangeblossom7777 · 21/10/2020 17:37

Noticed there was a mention of these not being helpful on the briefing yesterday (Van Tam) thought that was pointed.

Orangeblossom7777 · 21/10/2020 17:38

Nicola was on about closing schools (argh) I noticed. Surely not. The WHO said not to if at all possible, I thought.

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