What are your restrictions if your child is isolating?

[notevenat20]

DD’s class was just sent home because a teacher tested positive. We haven’t heard anything official from PHE yet but assuming she has to stay home for 14 days, what are my restrictions? I know I don’t have to isolate but can I just live my normal life, see friends etc? I assume I shouldn’t have anyone round to the house but is that actually the law?

I should say DD has no symptoms at all.

Bailey is scaremongering and there is not a high likelihood your child will contract the virus if they were not a very close contact - the SI is a precaution

She isn’t scaremongering at all. If someone in a household has come into contact with a confirmed case, there is a chance they will have become infected. If they have, they are contagious before they start to show symptoms. It makes sense for the household to avoid unnecessary social contact with others.

Yes, ok @MyPersona - but if your isolating child has siblings they have to go to school, if one parent can go to work, they have to go to work.

Your and Bailey's posts make it sound as though the whole house has to isolate.

"If your child is required to quarantine, the reason for this is because the chances of having contracted it are high due to close contact ."

When entire secondary school year bubbles are being required to self isolate then that isn't the case. Covid doesn't have R=200. Of course people should self isolate if they are told to but others in the house can go about their normal business.

Every1 can carry on as normal apart from child told to isolate if child get symptoms then every1 in house isolate.

When entire secondary school year bubbles are being required to self isolate then that isn't the case. Covid doesn't have R=200

Although I agree with your conclusion, that part is not correct. The risk isn't that one person has themselves infected 200 people but rather that one person has infected some unknown number of others who have infected some unknown number of others in the year. Because they have no idea how many people or who have been infected, they send everyone home.

Thanks @HazeyJaneII. Tbh if we can’t get a refund we are thinking of going for last three days but they are currently discussing with owner and though we’d like a three day break paying for a week is a very expensive way to do it! Also depends on whether we listen to school letter which says isolate until 30 Oct ie 14 days from day school told us or 14 days from last day the positive case was in school (as school also told us the child wasn’t in school for last four days). I do wonder if school told us that info as they think PHE have told them the wrong info.

Also to say that I think we’d be more cautious if DD has been a genuine close contact eg case was someone she sat next to or was friend but despite school letter saying identified as close contact (as has whole year) she is someone not in any of DD’s classes so at worst she will have passed in corridor or been in same toilet block at same time. And no school hasn’t told us who it is but 14 year olds share that info round so everyone knows.

@AliMonkey your dd only has to isolate for 14 days from their last day of contact with the positive person.

@notevenat20 I mentioned it to the swimming teacher but I was already there, I didn't call and offer not to go as theyre expensive lessons and DD2 has already missed so much. I think if it was a genuine close contact - someone she sits by or is close friends with - we all would have stayed home, but it was a boy in her class she barely knows and doesnt sit anywhere near or eat lunch with. She followed the rules obviously because they're in a tiny classroom together but I didn't see any need to go over the top.

"Because they have no idea how many people or who have been infected, they send everyone home."

I agree with that and it is also done to stop a potential outbreak in its tracks but as I said most of the year group are not at high of directly catching it from the positive case. If all of the 200 children's parents didn't go to work etc it would cause chaos.

@HazeyJaneII

Yes, ok *@MyPersona* - but if your isolating child has siblings they have to go to school, if one parent can go to work, they have to go to work.

Your and Bailey's posts make it sound as though the whole house has to isolate.

The OP was asking about seeing friends, throwing a birthday party, querying whether or not to let party attendees know. Essentially displaying a complete absence of understanding of the objective of limiting contacts.

@MadeForThis, I know hence that’s the rule we are going to stick to but it’s not what letter from school says! Quite frankly it’s likely that DD has had no contact with the positive case so we could just ignore the letter but as a family who has been careful to follow the rules and guidance that feels wrong and is of course more risky. So does not following the letter from school 100% but as I think they are wrong I can live with that!

@MyPersona

Bailey is scaremongering and there is not a high likelihood your child will contract the virus if they were not a very close contact - the SI is a precaution

She isn’t scaremongering at all. If someone in a household has come into contact with a confirmed case, there is a chance they will have become infected. If they have, they are contagious before they start to show symptoms. It makes sense for the household to avoid unnecessary social contact with others.

A chance. Not a high chance though!

In some cases whole bubbles are sent home where the child hasn't even been near the infected child.

My son's been SI twice now and hasn't developed any symptoms either time. Of course, he could be asymptomatic, but to suggest the whole house should SI when a contact is sent home, is incorrect.

I don't understand if your dc has been in contact with someone who has Covid19, they may have it and / or get it and give it to you and your family.
In the news today ( I'm in Ireland ) is a man who returned from a holiday abroad and spread the virus he had to 56 others directly and indirectly.
Surely if there is a possibility your child has it, your family should all restrict their movements despite you not having to, under guidelines ?

The OP was asking about seeing friends, throwing a birthday party, querying whether or not to let party attendees know. Essentially displaying a complete absence of understanding of the objective of limiting contacts.

I hope you are not a school teacher :) I would hate to ask a question in your class.

Surely if there is a possibility your child has it, your family should all restrict their movements

Would this include (in our case) not sending siblings to school (thereby an unauthorised absence for 14 days...×2 In our case), and dh taking 14 days off work, unauthorised (as it is not in the guidelines for him to stat home) - so not getting paid and potentially losing job?

@HazeyJaneII

Surely if there is a possibility your child has it, your family should all restrict their movements

Would this include (in our case) not sending siblings to school (thereby an unauthorised absence for 14 days...×2 In our case), and dh taking 14 days off work, unauthorised (as it is not in the guidelines for him to stat home) - so not getting paid and potentially losing job?

No, it would be common sense to reduce unnecessary contact to a minimum though. School and work are not unnecessary but they do risk spreading the virus. Therefore it makes sense to cut down on purely social interactions. I honestly don’t know why you would go ahead with discretionary mixing if there was a known contact in your household, it’s completely unreasonable.

@LadyEloise, you say “surely if there is a possibility your child has it ...”. But there is a possibility that we all have it! I think it’s just as likely that I catch it in supermarket or DS catches it at his school as DD catches it from a girl at school she has no interaction with.

In fact DS’s school seems most likely as the boys at his school seem to have no concept of social distancing whereas at DD’s girls school it sounds like they are mostly being sensible. Yet DS’s school have only sent home true close contacts when they have had cases. I think this is probably due to the extra measures they have relative to DD’s school (masks in corridors, school provided sanitiser rather than relying on kids taking own) yet talking to them about behaviour it seems that DD’s is safer.

But agree with PP that minimising unnecessary social interaction is wise in this circumstance - although that’s pretty much the basis we have been living by anyway.

I think maybe we are talking at cross purposes then.
I agree that minimising social interactions is sensible
When Bailey's post said treat your child /household member as though they are positive and behave accordingly
I thought it seemed to imply that the rest of the household should isolate, as they would if there were symptoms...if that's not what they meant, then that's fine!

Ds is self isolating atm. The only thing we are doing is work (dh) and school (sisters), and that seems the best way to me. As a pp said wrt the party - as a guest, I would want to be informed of the situation (we wouldn't go)

I hope you are not a school teacher I would hate to ask a question in your class.

No I’m not a schoolteacher, and presumably you are not a child?

No I’m not a schoolteacher, and presumably you are not a child?

:)

The child that is isolating should stay at home until the given date. They must not leave the house, and no-one else should enter the house unless they live there.
You can carry on going to work, and siblings can go to school unless any of you show symptoms then you will need to isolate too. So no cleaner should not come in or any friends