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Police granted access to test and trace data

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Char2015 · 17/10/2020 20:33

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-police-granted-access-to-details-of-people-told-to-self-isolate-by-test-and-trace-12106988

My instance thought when reading this is will it stop people from giving details of contacts if this information could potentially end up being given to the police. I'm sure there will be quite a few people reluctant to give details now if they are aware details are being passed to police.

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Farahilda · 17/10/2020 20:40

I suppose this is the response to the cry that they'll never enforce it.

This means that it becomes much more possible that they will, on a case-by-case basis rather than a mass approach.

The police have so many investigative tools already I doubt very much that this is going to make any real difference to his readily they can investigate and locate people. But it couid make a huge difference to his well isolation is carried out, once people think they could be caught out

AlecTrevelyan006 · 17/10/2020 20:43

at the beginning of this, we were old that the data would remain with NHS T&T, and specifically NOT be passed to the police for enforcement purposes.

... i'm not suggesting that there's 'something else going on' but stuff like this doesn't really help alleviate the conspiracy theories

HeIenaDove · 17/10/2020 20:52

. I can see that leading to poorer people (zero hours contracts + some of the key workers being clapped for earlier this year) being punished for not being able to afford to self isolate!

tortoiseshell1985 · 17/10/2020 20:53

This is getting seriously frightening now. Not covid fear either

jasjas1973 · 17/10/2020 20:56

Many people won't answer phone to 0345 number etc, let alone pass on details.
Counter productive.

HeronLanyon · 17/10/2020 21:00

This made me really worried. Haven’t downloaded the app because I never did trust the data security aspect of it.
I’m fully (more than fully) complying with Covid regs and not really going anywhere I have to give details anyway. So it’s not an anti ‘lockdown’ stance. It’s a worrying erosion of privacy to my mind.

Farahilda · 17/10/2020 21:02

I don't think we were told exactly that @AlecTrevelyan006

Because the government was planning to create a dataset and keep it for 20 years (and I think share with unspecified relevant departments). That was why neither google nor Apple would work with that version. I don't remember them saying anything about enforcement. Did I miss something?

user18264925482 · 17/10/2020 21:12

Having been on the receiving end of police misconduct (bad enough that the force itself held it to be misconduct rather than covering for them) this is enough for me to withdraw my consent from the test & trace system and it reinforces my distrust of the police.

I won't be the only one to have that reaction.

Lowkee · 17/10/2020 21:15

This is the privacy notice I got.

contact-tracing.phe.gov.uk/help/privacy-notice

If you have been told by NHS Test and Trace to self-isolate
If you test positive for coronavirus or are a close contact of someone who tests positive, you must self-isolate to stop the virus from spreading. If you have been instructed to self-isolate by NHS Test and Trace, we will regularly contact you by phone and text during this period to provide advice and support and check you are self-isolating.

If we try to call you but receive no response after three attempts or if you tell us you are not self-isolating, your name, address at which you are self-isolating, contact details and information about when you were instructed to self-isolate will be provided to your local authority. Your local authority will investigate further to find out if you need support with self-isolating or have a reasonable excuse not to self-isolate. Reasonable excuses include seeking medical assistance, obtaining basic necessities such as food or medicine if there is no other way to obtain them, accessing social services or other important public services, avoiding a risk of harm, attending the funeral of a close family member, carrying out a legal obligation such as attending court, or accessing veterinary services. If there is evidence to suggest you are not complying with the duty to self-isolate without reasonable justification, your local authority may pass this information on to local Police to investigate further. This may lead to enforcement action being taken against you, which could include you being fined.

If the Police receive a report that you may be breaking the self-isolation requirement, they may ask us to confirm if you were required to self-isolate and for what time period. We will share with the Police information including your name, the address at which you are self-isolating, details about your self-isolation, and other information they may need to help decide whether to take enforcement action against you.

If you test positive for coronavirus
If you test positive for coronavirus you will be contacted by the contact-tracing service and asked to confirm or provide your:

full name
date of birth
sex
ethnic group
NHS number
home postcode and house number
mobile phone number
telephone number
email address
You will also be asked to provide:

details of your COVID-19 symptoms, including when they started and their nature
whether you are clinically vulnerable or extremely vulnerable and require support
details of people who are your close contacts and how you came into contact with them

Lowkee · 17/10/2020 21:16

I haven't downloaded the app. I never saw the email (must have presumed it was spam) Wink

Mum2jenny · 17/10/2020 21:20

I’d never give details to this but would contact any friends if I’d been in contact with them.

Lowkee · 17/10/2020 21:20

I'm with you @HeronLanyon. The thing that put me off was that the government (dons tinfoil hat) accessed details from my GP.

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