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Cases by Age - ONS study

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HelloitsmeMargaret · 17/10/2020 08:52

The ONS have released their latest data on age of infections. This is random testing so will pick up the asymptomatic cases.

It pretty much puts to bed the idea young kids are silent spreaders, but it also helpfully splits out 10-19 into 10-16 and 16-24. The really sharp increases are in the latter which will be really interesting if they can correlate with the super-spreader events. Data so far suggests 80% of cases come from 20% of people.

Possibly strong policy case for masks in Year 12+

Cases by Age - ONS study
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dementedpixie · 17/10/2020 08:56

I'm in Scotland so have no idea what year 12 age group would be. Or any of the other year groups tbh. 16/17 or thereabouts?

HelloitsmeMargaret · 17/10/2020 08:58

Yes 16.

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CarrieBlue · 17/10/2020 09:02

It shows that primary school measures appear to be working - much easier to have bubbles which can isolate. Not so much fir secondary or sixth form where options make a mockery of bubbles - larger groups exposed

BunsyGirl · 17/10/2020 09:11

@dermentedpixie Year 12 is 16-17.

Year 6 is last year of primary (so 10-11).

The figures really do show the low cases in primary school age children which reflects the experience in my DC’s school. There are have been no cases in the primary division over the past six weeks and a couple of isolated cases in the secondary division (it’s an “all through” school).

BunsyGirl · 17/10/2020 09:13

@CarrieBlue Maybe, but my children go to an “all through” school where the teachers from the senior school come into the primary to teach. We’ve still had no cases in the primary despite having a couple of cases in the senior.

PickAChew · 17/10/2020 09:16

It's reflecting the mass contact testing going on in universities. No other age group is getting that.

CarrieBlue · 17/10/2020 09:18

[quote BunsyGirl]@CarrieBlue Maybe, but my children go to an “all through” school where the teachers from the senior school come into the primary to teach. We’ve still had no cases in the primary despite having a couple of cases in the senior.[/quote]
Then you’re lucky. Or maybe the primary kids are asymptomatic.

smilingthroughgrittedteeth · 17/10/2020 09:20

Surely it just represents that younger kids are asymptomatic and not being tested as much as teenagers

Youandmeareluckytobeus · 17/10/2020 09:20

Data so far suggests 80% of cases come from 20% of people.
The Pareto principle proven right yet again. I wonder If the bell curve will also be proven right in the same manner.

MereDintofPandiculation · 17/10/2020 09:20

@PickAChew

It's reflecting the mass contact testing going on in universities. No other age group is getting that.
Although the figures are estimated percentage testing positive, not total testing positive, so it shouldn't be too sensitive to numbers of tests carried out.
Endofmytether2020 · 17/10/2020 09:25

It’s not possible to draw valid conclusions from that data alone. The “primary” age group spans 2-11 year olds so very different age ranges lumped together. Is this done by random sampling and extrapolated or is it drawn from pillar 2 testing?

AuntImmortelle · 17/10/2020 09:28

@smilingthroughgrittedteeth

Surely it just represents that younger kids are asymptomatic and not being tested as much as teenagers
But this is the ONS testing where you are asked to test completely by random which is why it's a good reflection of actual infection rates rather than test and trace figures. Confused
HelloitsmeMargaret · 17/10/2020 11:55

Yes this is the random sampling so the high testing of Uni students and low testing of primary students is irrelevant.

@Youandmeareluckytobeus yes Pareto! Almost feels like we're in Doctor Who story arc 🤔

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mrshoho · 17/10/2020 12:00

You seem to be ignoring the increasing rise in the year 7 to year 11 group. It has doubled in a week!

HelloitsmeMargaret · 17/10/2020 12:30

Not at all ignoring it @mrshoho - most of the groups - except thankfully the 70+ -have seen rises. It's just comparing to the data when it's grouped as 10-19 as the PHE data it's a very different picture.

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mrshoho · 17/10/2020 12:36

I'm sorry but I find the Y7 to Y11 group rates very concerning. If this coming week shows the same fast increase then what? The only glimmer is half term week is coming or already started.

2X4B523P · 17/10/2020 13:17

Looking at the graphs it appears infection rates across all age groups similar except years 12 to age 24 at the highest followed by years 7 to 11.

mrshoho · 17/10/2020 13:39

@HelloitsmeMargaret

Not at all ignoring it *@mrshoho* - most of the groups - except thankfully the 70+ -have seen rises. It's just comparing to the data when it's grouped as 10-19 as the PHE data it's a very different picture.
And can you see how the y12 to 24 group levelled off last week whereas the y7 to y11 rose sharply.
HelloitsmeMargaret · 17/10/2020 14:17

Maybe it's more reassuring to me in comparison to the latest PHE report. Cases are rising there is no doubt but it doesn't look like schools are the cause of it.

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