Please help me work out if I'm allowed to do this??

[somanysockssolittletime]

Tier 3 area.

Very long established relationship.

We have a child together but don't live together.

He lives with his mother.

I live with my older teenage daughter and our son.

Me and son go stay with him and his mother every weekend, my daughter stays behind at mine.

Is this allowed?? Are we a 'household' or 'support bubble' ??

I can't work it out.

Me and the DC not 'bubbled' with anyone else.

I want to obey the rules.

Can I do this please??

It's his Mother that's the issue because he is her support and your support bubble should be happening at yours.

Rather than follow the rules, which didn't make sense first time around, consider if it increases the transmission route to any of you and if the mental health aspect is as important.

We all need to individually risk assess, in some circumstances.

Depends how old your daughter is, if she is under 18 then you are a single adult household and are able to have a support bubble so it's fine.

How old is the teen. Imaging college age if left alone all weekend.

You are not a household as don’t live together and may be a support bubble if your teen is under 18 and he comes to yours.

I think you must be ok because you are simultaneously

A single parent (or living as one) and entitled to bubble with another household;

Facilitating your son's access with his father

In a long term relationship, and thus - currently - entitled to see your partner

Don't think there is a diktat re where support bubbling happens?

@Ponoka7 So it's because DP lives with his mother, that's the problem?

I'm not sure if it would increase any risks.

Even if I didn't go for the weekends, DS would still have to go (as is allowed for a child to move between homes).

Can't get my head around if it would increase transmission me being there.

Just do what you want

He lives with his mother - they are a household - not "bubbled"
So OP can have them as her bubble.

Or, are you a family just splitting time between main residence and second home. Which is also allowed.

You have only one adult in your household so therefore you are allowed to form a support bubble with his household.

As the father of your child, he is allowed to visit your house for childcare\parenting reasons.

Enjoy.

You can’t legally, no. Because he’s not an adult living by himself, so he’s not entitled to have a support bubble, and you can’t meet other households in Tier 3.

DS can go because there’s a legal exemption for children in his circumstances.

You can bubble with someone else, if your daughter is under 18 and the other person is eligible... but not him, unless he can live apart from his mother.

DD is nearly 17.

How old is your daughter op?

I’ve bugged that up! Will get that deleted. You're alright because his mother lives there. Ruined brain; sorry!

@SleepingStandingUp DD is nearly 17.

@ShellsAndSunrises it's ok, the whole restrictions thing is really confusing!

A support bubble is a single adult / single adult headed household with any other household.
So you're single adult headed household with your 16 yo and DS. In a bubble with your DP and mil. So yes

Yes you can form a bubble because you are a single adult household. It doesn't matter how many adults there are in the other household.

www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household

@SleepingStandingUp So it doesn't matter that DP lives with his mother then?

No you are absolutely fine to do that

[quote somanysockssolittletime]@SleepingStandingUp So it doesn't matter that DP lives with his mother then?[/quote]
No, you're a single adult headed household, you can bubble with any household you want.

Yes you are fine but be aware that will be your bubble, I've spoken to loads of people who think they can be in more than one bubble

Why are people saying the dp living with his mother means they can't form a bubble?
The support bubble is between 2 households, one with a single adult and any other size household. The op is the single person in this so can bubble with partners household

@AvoidingRealHumans, until the OP said that her DD was 17, it wouldn't be ok, as she wouldn't be a single adult household if her DD was 18. Her DP isn't a single adult household either, but contact with his Son is allowed. The most sensible thing would be to stay in the OP's unless his Mother can't be left, then they have no choice.

It also depends on if his Mother is vulnerable as well.

We are supposed to be limiting social interactions as much as possible. However as I said I think we all should individually risk assess.

@ponoka7 the dp doesn't need to be a single adult house hold.
A single adult household (the op) can bubble with another household, it doesn't have to be another single adult household.
Yes we are supposed to be limiting social contacts but the bubble thing was brought in because of the mental effects of lockdown on single people.

Have you actually read the rules on bubbles Ponoka?

It's fine OP.

Either him at yours or you at his, you can all treat each other as household members. So you can all go out together too

@ShellsAndSunrises
You can bubble with someone else, if your daughter is under 18 and the other person is eligible... but not him, unless he can live apart from his mother.

That is incorrect. Only one of the households needs to be a single adult household.